Export licence - vader?

[parsley]

VADER SAYS:
"The costs are minimal because there are no employees at the CWB whose sole responsibility is licencing."

# 2. The CWB takes $$$$$$$out of your pooling accounts to pay licensing costs for seed growers.

The Canadian Seed Growers’ Association (CSGA), claim they represents 4,500 seed growers in Canada.

Can we agree that some of them would grow and export wheat and barley?

How would you set-up/run licensing seed growers?

-consultations with seed growers(meetings, letters)

-Board of D's meeting time set aside for presentations, discusssion

-Rules and Procedures Development for Pedigreed Seed (PS)exporting

-Consultations with Customs Canada for PS exports going through

-PS Protocol /Harmonization/ with Customs/Border

- PS License had to be designed and printed . Declarations sometimes checked.

-Periodic Licensing Revisions

- Seed Growers instructed..form letters, telephone calls

-Staff training re inquiries, how to complete, form

-Staff training to keep records of licensing transactions

- Staff training of authenticity of exporters

-Licenses have to be presented to applicants..faxes, phones, clerks

-Licenses have to be accepted/rejected to applicants.. admin...faxes, phones, clerks

-Licenses have to returned to CWB.....faxes, phones, clerks

-Compilation of PS Manual

-equipment-computers-offfice-storage
-desk, shared?

-wages-UI-CPP-CWB Benefits and Retirement

Add that up for years. With interest.

OUT OF YOUR POOLING ACCOUNTS!

Pedigreed seed bypasses Board Pooling and marketing.

Parsley

[TOM4CWB]

Vader,

I spoke with a CWB Director last week.

We could have 99% support for the single desk, in one week, and make the CWB totally accountable and transparent... if you even care.

What needs to be done is simple.

The CWB MUST respect the growers that offer it grain.

The CWB has control over the railway and elevators. And that is all the CWB was ever intended to control. LEGALLY and MORALLY.

1. Export licenses the same as seed/man.feed by truck and container.
2. Daily transparent Pricing, every business day of the year.
3. Listen to the 20% of growers who grow 80% of the grain in the "designated area" and serve them instead of single minded

All that needs to be Done Vader. But some would rather destroy the CWB than fix it and be proven to be liars.

[wd9]

Vader, since farmers who apply for cash advance don't pay an administration fee - only to the elevator $50 to print a cheque, are you saying there is no staff either for cash advance admin at the CWB?

[Vader]

wd9 - I didn't say that. The cash advance program is a rather large program with credit checks and enforcement. The cash advance program is a Federal Government program but the CWB is one of the administrators of the program. The CWB takes a lot of flak over it but there is a strong business case to stay in the game.

Did you know that a recent change to the legislation is opening up the opportunity for more players in the administration of cash advances? In other words the Canadian Canola Growers Ass'n could give you an advance on wheat and the CWB could give you an advance on canola (or potatoes etc.)

[parsley]

Vader,the dog's dog,

I hate naming my sources, especially when they are sp public, BUT are you saying this Canada Customs website is lying? They sure fooled me.

QUOTE

"MEMORANDUM D19-3-2
Ottawa, November 4, 1994

EXPORTATION OF WHEAT AND BARLEY PRODUCTS
The Department of National Revenue assists other government Departments (OGDS) and agencies in the administration of their various Acts and Regulations. This Memorandum outlines and explains the provisions of the Canadian Wheat Board Act as it pertains to the exportation of wheat and barley products.


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GUIDELINES AND GENERAL INFORMATION
1. Under the authority of the Canadian Wheat Board Act, the Canadian Wheat Board requires that all exports of wheat and barley products be authorized through the issuance of a Single or Multiple Shipment Licence or be covered under the Special Export Licence provisions.

2. Wheat and barley products include:

(a) all kinds and grades of wheat or barley;

(b) all substances produced by processing or manufacturing wheat or barley that contain wheat or barley or a combination of those grains in any form to an extent greater than 25% by weight. The substance is designated a product of the grain of which it contains the largest percentage by weight.

Single Shipment and Multiple Shipment Licences
3. Exporters of all wheat and barley products, other than those covered by the Special Export Licence provisions, must apply to the Canadian Wheat Board for a Single Shipment or Multiple Shipment Licence prior to exportation.

4. Export licences restrict exportation to a single point of exit and are valid for sixty (60) days from the date of issue. Extensions will not be granted.

5. Exporters must also apply to the Canadian Wheat Board for a licence to export the following:

(a) wheat and barley that was imported into Canada for temporary storage and is now being exported. (Export licences are not required for USA wheat that is in transit through Canada, but that will not be unloaded into elevators in Canada.);

(b) in-transit shipments of Canadian wheat, en route to another Canadian point by way of the USA and not shipped by or consigned to the Canadian Wheat Board (Exemption: CN Rail routing through Minnesota between Sprague, Manitoba to Rainy Lake, Ontario; and CP Rail routing through the state of Maine between the points of Lac Mégantic, Quebec and McAdam, New Brunswick).

Special Export Licence Provision
6. The Canadian Wheat Board Act allows the exportation of certain products under Special Export Licence provisions. Exporters of products qualifying under these provisions are not required to apply to the Canadian Wheat Board for a licence, but are required to reference the Special Export Licence provision number on their form B13A, Export Declaration (for destinations other than the USA).

7. Special Export Licence (SPL) provisions are as follows:

SPL CWB 1050 – authorizes the following fresh or frozen products for exportation to all countries:

bread; bread products; cakes; cookies and biscuits; pastries; pizza crusts

SPL CWB 1541 – authorizes the exportation by vessel of unlimited quantities of wheat of the grades listed below shipped by the CWB or its agent to all destinations other than the USA:

(a) Wheat No. 1 Canada Western Red Spring – all protein percentages;

(b) Wheat No. 2 Canada Western Red Spring – all protein percentages;

(c) Wheat Nos. 1, 2 and 3 Canada Western Red Winter;

(d) Wheat Nos. 1, 2 and 3 Canada Western Amber Durum;

(e) Wheat Nos. 1 and 2 Canada Prairie Spring;

(f) Wheat Nos. 1, 2 and 3 Canada Western Soft White Spring

Shipments exported under authority of SPL CWB 1541 must be covered by an export contract booked with the CWB. The contract number, as well as the export licence number SPL CWB 1541 must be shown on all forms B13A export declarations.

SPL SMP 100 – authorizes exports of samples of Canadian wheat and barley (and products made from these grains), not in excess of 5 kg (11 lbs.)

SPL SMP 200 – authorizes the Canadian Grain Commission, the Canadian Wheat Board and the Canadian International Grain Institute to export samples of wheat and barley (and products made from these grains) not in excess of 50 kg (110 lbs.)

Reporting to Customs
8. Exporters of all wheat and barley products, other than those qualifying under the Special Export Licence provisions, must present the following documents to Customs for validation at the point of exit specified on the licence:

– two copies of their bill of lading or scale ticket identifying the quantity and the grade and protein level in the shipment, and

– two copies of their single shipment licence (original and one copy) or multiple shipment licence (two copies – Exporters are expected to surrender their original multiple shipment licences to Customs with their final export shipment authorized under each licence).

9. Exporters must indicate the export licence number on their B13A, Export Declaration (for destinations other than the USA).

10. When presented, Customs will date stamp all copies, return one copy to the exporter and forward the original or second copy of the licence and bill of lading to the Canadian Wheat Board on a weekly basis.

11. When issuing Multiple Shipment Licences, the Canadian Wheat Board will provide the Customs office specified as the point of exit with a copy.

12. When Multiple Shipment Licences are presented, Customs will verify the quantities with the Multiple Shipment Licence received from the Canadian Wheat Board. Customs will maintain a record of quantities exported and refuse shipments exceeding quantities authorized on the Multiple Shipment Licence.

13. Where Customs suspects that the product being exported is not as described on the licence, Customs will take a sample (1 kg/2.2 lbs) and contact the Canadian Wheat Board.

Penalties
14. Exporters are advised that any attempt to export wheat or barley without the required licence is in contravention of the Canadian Wheat Board Act and the Customs Act. Customs will detain shipments until such time as the exporter presents a valid export licence issued by the Canadian Wheat Board, or voluntarily terminates the export movement.

15. Customs export reporting requirements are provided in Memorandum D20-1-1, Export Declaration. Exporters of wheat and barley who do not comply with the requirement to report to Customs and present the appropriate export licence are in non-compliance with the Customs Act and are subject to seizure or ascertained forfeiture of their shipment and the conveyance used to transport it. Terms of release for seized wheat or barley or wheat or barley subject to ascertained forfeiture will be $100 per metric tonne of wheat and $40 per metric tonne of barley. In addition, the terms of release for the conveyance used to transport the illegal wheat or barley will be $400 for each infraction, except where the contravention involves a failure to comply with a request of a Customs officer, in which case the amount shall be $400 for the first infraction and $2,000 for each subsequent infraction.

16. Every person who fails to report exported wheat or barley products to Customs is in contravention of section 95 of the Customs Act, and may also face criminal prosecution and fines of not more than five hundred thousand dollars or to imprisonment for a term not exceeding five years or to both.

17. In addition, exporters of wheat and barley who do not comply with the Canadian Wheat Board Act are also subject to the penalty provisions of that Act, which include fines of up to $5,000 or up to two years imprisonment or to both.

Additional Information
18. Licence applications, or questions concerning the Canadian Wheat Board Act and regulations should be directed to:

Export and Import Permits Department
The Canadian Wheat Board
423 Main Street
P.O. Box 816
Winnipeg, Manitoba
R3C 2P5

Telephone: 204 983-3569
Fax: 204 983-3841

19. Questions concerning the administration by Customs of the requirements and procedures outlined in this Memorandum should be directed to:

Revenue Canada
Ottawa, Ontario
K1A 0L5

Attention: Interdepartmental Programs
Inspection and Control Division

Telephone: 613 954-7129
Fax: 613 952-1698


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I didn't realize Canada Customs would post information like this, unless they'd collaborated with the Wheat Board.


So if there is essentially no Licensing Department, Vader, as you have stated, who's doing all this?

Wd9, maybe that's where the money-leak is out of the pooling accounts.

Parsley

[wedino]

Export and Import Permits Department
The Canadian Wheat Board
423 Main Street
P.O. Box 816
Winnipeg, Manitoba
R3C 2P5

What crap are you feeding us, Vader? No licence dept., give me a freeken break!

[parsley]

It looks as if CWB Director Ian McCreary is Vader's secret source of denial, because similarily, McCreary

JUST CAN'T IMAGINE

that the cost of a national licensing program for all wheat and barley and all of their products in Canada is.............get this........

"significant".

Read the exchange where David Anderson questions an informed picket:

"June 7, 2001

Mr. David Anderson: So the answer is you do give no-cost export licences to Ontario producers.

Mr. Ian McCreary: The answer is there are no costs for export licences for the Ontario Wheat Producers' Marketing Board and others going from Ontario.

Mr. David Anderson: Okay. I understand that the Wheat Board then absorbs the administrative costs of those licences. Is that correct?

Mr. Ian McCreary: Because they're freely available, the administrative process is nominal, at best.

Mr. David Anderson: So it's nominal, but the legislation clearly says the federal government is to pay that bill. It's okay if you're spending a little bit of producers' money opposite to what they access. Are you comfortable with doing that?

Mr. Ian McCreary: I would have to have some estimate on what the amount would be. I can't imagine that it would be significant. There's no restriction on it. It's a piece of paper that's freely available, so I can't imagine that's a policy issue that's of much interest in the context of our agenda today.
I don't know the magnitude of that, Mr. Anderson, or whether it's even an issue”

A piece of paper freely available.

Now that's Wheat Board accountability at it's finest.

Parsley

[wedino]

Holy cow Parsley, there's more of us (to quote Vader) "witch hunt lunatics." Imagine that!!!

[Vader]

read my lips

The costs are minimal because there are no employees at the CWB whose sole responsibility is licensing.

If you want to call it a department be my guest. What's in a name.

Spend all the time and energy on this that you want. Better yet spend all your time and energy on this.

[TOM4CWB]

Parsely

"A peice of freely avaliable paper"

In Liberal terms... LIKE THE GUN REGISTRY? A licence, that is freely avaliable... you just have to fill out the paperwork. PLLLEEEASSSE Vader.

RIGHT! Was to cost a few millions... What did the Liberals... get it to cost... with jobs jobs jobs...and all Canadians pay how much...? BILLIONS?

Not even the western CDN long gun owners pay... but appropriately the Gov. of Canada.

Like the CWB legislation says Vader... READ the CWB ACT. I don't care how much interest revenue the CWB wants to distort... what was it... from the $62m this fall... that turns out in the 05-06 Financials @ $34m? Vader? THat kind of discrepancy? A correction I have to yet see the CWB admit to?

But I suppose you think western Canada long gun owners should pay the whole cost of the gun registry as well... cause the majority of western gun owners didn't ask for IT EITHER!

[parsley]

Your "technically correct" training shines, Vader.

This is just ....ravings of a lunatic, but bear with me, again, If the Licensing Department staff were each officially re-assigned an additional duty, like a daily recorded check of the weathermap, a dual-duty, so to speak, then the legal description of the employee's performance would not specifically pertain to licensing duties.

Technicalities can be solved.

PAST:
"Export and Import Permits Department"

PRESENT:
WEATHERING CUSTOMS & EXPORTS

You are King of the word-game in the Single-Desk Casino, Vader.

Parsley

[BennyHin]

TOMCWB4: Speaking of ENRON, you probably thought they were the economic model for the world. Probably WorldCom too.What happened to those companies?

Here is a message to Deloitte and Touche:
Tom4CWB claims your on the take. This sounds like slander to me. What church to you belong to Tom???