CWB system is padding the pockets of U.S. grain companies

[BennyHin]

frisco: what was the cwb's final return on oats the last year they were marketed thru the board monopoly? what was the price the year after in the open market? are you getting rich growing oats at $1.6-$2.00 / bu most years? Besides this year, and 1996,and 2002 the oat price hasnt appreciated at all, actually gone down with respect to inflation. Yes, the US buys a lot more of our oats, but this is a dirrect result of US farm policy (little support for oats), and the Heart Smart campaign of the early 1990's that identified oats as a good source of soluble fibre, and cholesterol lowering properties.

How is the paylean working out for you?

[wd9]

Wonder how much exported "feed" barley is turned into malt with the same process?

[BennyHin]

farmranger: did frisco not insult board supporters in this thread? Why dont you have another read of his arrogant posts?

He insulted an alternative view prior to being challenged.

I sure wouldnt be arrogant if i had to admit i was a manure producer

[parsley]

And exactly what is wrong with being a pig producer?

[chaffmeister]

BennyHin:

US exports durum to the same places as Canada….since you were asking. (Except, apparently, Algeria.)

What was the CWB’s final return on oats during the last year it had oats (88-89), you ask? I can’t say but I can tell you that the CWB didn’t have a hot clue what oats were worth at the time. At the company where I used to work (back in the eighties) we were making back-to-back sales of oats into the US, bought from the CWB, for anywhere between $20 and $40 a tonne margin. In case you don’t know, back-to-back indicates when you buy and sell the grain at the same time, locking in a margin – no need to hedge. And, also in case you didn’t know - $40 margins are <b>HUGE</b>.

Oats = fish.
CWB = barrel.

I just reread all Fransisco’s posts on this thread – not one should be considered an insult. Challenging? Yes. Mocking? Perhaps. Insulting? No.

Talk about manure production……

[BennyHin]

nothing wrong the majority of pig producers, but we all know frisco has reasons beyond farming for posting to this site

[chaffmeister]

"we all know frisco has reasons beyond farming for posting to this site"

We do?

Sorry, but I don't. Can you enlighten me.

[Fransisco]

Oink, Oink.

[Fransisco]

Yes Benny, enlighten us.

[chaffmeister]

back to wilagro:

Well, you DIDN’T know that the questions were <b>NOT</b> asked in a rhetorical fashion. They were meant to challenge you to come up with some logical explanation. Rhetorical questions are those asked when you know the answer. I don’t think Fransisco “knew” what your answer would be but I’m gonna guess that he figured you wouldn’t have a good answer.

And he was right.

So it IS a big deal.

We “anti’s” are not asking you “pro’s” for answers. The questions are to challenge the logic of the single-desk-supporter and to test your ability to think through the concepts – for all of us to benefit. I keep thinking that a CWB-supporter here on Agriville will be able to shine some needed light on why the CWB gets so much support. So far, it’s still pretty dark in this room.

[silverback]

I sure wish I had a constant supply of hog manure to spread on our fields.

If I am not mistaken, the fertilizer costs seem a little higher than they were last year. Hog farmers have a big advantage. Perhaps someone is a little jealous.

Good posting Francisco, don't get your hopes up of having a dignified debate.

[Fransisco]

No worries Silverback, some folks just can't handle the facts.

Like the Vet's say, you know you're over the target when you're getting flak.