Conspiracy

[silverback]

Mars is warming up. Explain that anytime you want.

Why are you so obsessed about this? Go out and buy all the credits you can with the zillions you are making off your charts and get on with your life. Spend some time with your family, or your dog, or a girl. Better yet, go volunteer for Al Gore's election team, or live in Suzuki's commune. I will continue to try and grow food for the rest of the world (in an environmentally friendly way of course).

[wedino]

Don't see why it matters, but if you must, put me in Tim Ball's camp!

[Fransisco]

Climate changes, it always has, it always will. There have been times in the past when it was warming there have been times when its cooling. I don't deny warming, I don't deny cooling, I don't deny climate change.

What is a hoax is that we will have some kind of a man-made climate holocaust. If you want labels then lets be clear <b>I am a climate holocaust denier.</b>

There are a lot of things we can control in this world. Climate ain't one of em.

[Fransisco]

Now what about you Cotton?

Just saying 'it's real', is a cop out.

Do you believe that we are going to have a climate holocaust in the near future as outlined by Gore and Suzuki?

Is the end of the world near?

Are you a climate holocaust believer?

[cottonpicken]

Ok what do i believe:

There are 112 people per square mile on this planet.(land above water)

This is a fact.

Think of all the forest,scrub,desert,tundra, land.

How would a cattle herd do?

Humans do impact their environment.

Do i really have to go any deeper than this fact.Did anybody ever think of this fact?

Thanks for dodjing the question pars.

Why dont you guys chew on 112 people per square mile for a while.
I'm gonna love the genius response on this one.

[parsley]

I was being flippant, cp, and and I shouldn't give that kind of answer.

1. I will continue to be as conscious an environmentalist as I can be.
2. I will not ride a horse to town, I want to keep my car.
3.I think there is pollution that can be reduced/reversed,, there is climate change for the reason that is yet undiagnosed, we waste resources, but are adapting to finding ways to use and manage the "peelings".
4. I don't have the answers,and neither does anyone else, but one massive movement in one direction is stupid if hindsight shows we should have been heading north instead of south. There's safety in different decisions.
5. Paste "Where's the crisis" on your forehead when you want to get caught up in a movement.

That's it for me.

Parsley

[cottonpicken]

How does 112 taste pars.

Take a look out your window and imagine 112 humans taking everything they need out a section of land.

This decade,last decade,next decade.This century,last century,next century.

Tell me i'm wrong.

[Fransisco]

Geez what's up dude? You can't defend your hero's Gore and Suzuki on global warming so now you add Paul Ehrlich to the collection.

If you want to talk about the overpopulation myth fine start another thread.

It's a different topic.

In the mean time answer the questions climate holocaust or not?

And name a piece of evidence Tim Ball has got wrong.

[parsley]

Am I fortunate to live in a G7 country where the choices made before me, and after me, help determine how we live and will live?

You bet.

Parsley

[cowman]

Now I'm no expert on climate. For years I read Tim Balls weather column in the Country Guide and I thought he was pretty good! The "rip" on Tim Ball(as well as any other scientist who questions global warming) is he is being funded by the oil companies...therefore is totally unbelievable!
But wait a minute...where does David Suzuki get his money? Fact: Two of his major corporate sponsors are Encana and ATCO gas! Throw in Toyota also!
So does this mean old Dave has no credibility?
Did anyone catch what he said in Calgary? About how Albertans are too dumb and greedy to do the right thing about his wacky Kyoto scam?
Maybe its time to get out the tar and feathers and ride this snakeoil salesman out of town on a rail!