dying cwb

[mustardman]

Do you think ConAgra, Bunge and Louis Dreyfus get around Bejjing on mopeds and Rickshaws ?

[mustardman]

They also pay stress leave for their employees it all comes out of their margins.

[silverback]

Every employee?

[chaffmeister]

I worked for a nasty multinational - never in the history of that particular company did they ever issue "stress leave" or "stress bonuses". Performance bonuses, yes. Stress relief? Give your head a shake. If you don't like the heat, get out of the kitchen.

[TOM4CWB]

Parsley,

I agree...

33. Stress pay for staff, pay staff to attend political functions, pay staff to buy luxury cars in Beijing

[parsley]

mustardman,

Quit trying to compare multinationals that have voluntary investors with a Government crown corporation that is set into stone by legislation.

It's just plain silly.

If Bunge wants to take one employee and send him around the world forty-seven times for a bonus, and ignore every other employee, they can. CAN.


Every CWB employee wants the salary of the private sector, along with the security of legislation. The gigs up.

Farmers paying the bill are no longer tolerant of these kinds of non-credible arguments.

Parsley

[TOM4CWB]

Mustardman,

"Do you think ConAgra, Bunge and Louis Dreyfus get around Bejjing on mopeds and Rickshaws."

What does this have to do with the price of rice in China?

What ever modes of transport grain merchants use is fine with me... I would even pick one who uses an energy efficient low cost mode... which fits our farms Mission and Vision of doing business.

The point here...

Is that we must have the choice in the first place... which obviously we don't have with the CWB.

Make sense?

[mustardman]

Parsley
you don't think farmers are paying the bills on private corp. when they send "their employee 47 times around the world" ?

No you probably think the CEO pays for it out of their 3.9 million dollar salary.

[chaffmeister]

I think the point is that they wouldn't spend frivolously. Competition keeps these companies on top of their expenses - that's the one place they can improve their profitability over their competition. Remember they are competing on price - both buying and selling. Dealing in commodities means you can't sell above the crowd and buy below the crowd - even the CWB knows this. Markets are set by the players with the best cost structures - the others have to figure out way to follow suit or fold their tent and go home.

Competition keeps costs low. But not at the CWB.

[parsley]

Farmers don't have to deal with Bunge.

Think that you can't influence?

You are very dull if you think so.

Just look at the company that offered porn pics on phones...the RC church even got involved!

The company backed down, licked it's wounded cancellations and learned not to tick off the CUSTOMER.

Bunge isn't keen to shut off a supply of grain...farmers.

The CWB could care less. They have you by the legislated gonads and don't you forget it, chump.


If you cannot understand the difference-concept, say so, and maybe we can re-state it in a more simplified way.

Parsley

[mustardman]

Parsley and Chaff

You'd best explain your theories to our esteemed lentil exporters.

We have 80 % of green lentil market- yet we are selling at a 50% discount to our so called competition.

It seem it is way easier to discount prices to lentil producers and simply ship loads and loads of Volume rather than ask for a higher selling Price.

When asked one exporter who our competiton was - the reply was a blank stare-

[mustardman]

P.S in case you didn't get it , the blank stare meant there really was no competition.

If you think working in the private sector means lean and mean then you"D best come on out to the gas patch.
Employees put in 4 hours but get paid for 10. Goes on all the time .

Wastefull spending practices does not only happen in public institution.
Waste

[parsley]

You have me there, I missed that there is only one lentil buyer in Canada, a legislated one.

What was I thinking?

Is that one lentil dealer in Ontario or in BC?

Wow. Legislation I missed. I did say
I am getting too old and that confirms my suspicions.

When was the single desk lentil legislation passed? Got a link for me?

Parsley

[cropduster]

Parsley......legislated gonads??????That got me !! Does that mean we`ll have a serious "prairie oyster" roast when choice marketing happens.Ritter and Co. should be particularly nervous.Just thinking of the body language cracks me up!!!

[chaffmeister]

Mustardman:
You have just now, very clearly, explained the fundamental problem with the CWB. No competition when it comes to procuring grain. If you don’t need to sharpen your pencil, why would you bother? You end up with industry-high expenses.

When I first heard about the marketing problems with green lentils I thought to myself that I should get involved as a merchandiser. Obviously, there’s a lot of money being left on the table and if there was more competition, that would disappear pretty quickly.

It would work like this.
Current traders don’t care about the price buyers are willing to pay. They focus on what the farmer is willing to sell at and just “margin up” from there.
New traders (good ones) would go into the consumptive markets, get realistic bids, and then turn around and out bid the current guys.
The current guys would then be forced to pay up to compete – which would mean they would have to do their homework on the consumptive markets.

Market efficiency, brought to you by competition.

FWIW – if this ever happened where I used to work, the lentil trader would be looking for a new job.