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    #21
    Burbet: I have to agree with you that David Suzuki is pretty sharp! Most con men are? Hey lets face it he isn't out shovelling grain or feeding cows in snow up to his ass!
    David Suzuki has taken his "schtick" and parlayed it into a multi-million dollar business...you can't call him a dummie!
    And just look at old Al? Two oscars, maybe a Nobel prize, possibly another crack at the presidency...definitely not stupid...most "slickers" aren't?
    These guys remind me of Jimmy Baker, wailing against sin and evil...while he was screwing all the secretaries! Can you say hypocrite?

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      #22
      One other thing: Someone needs to tell Al Gore to quit lazing about on the jet eating fritos and junk food? Maybe get out of the limo and ride the old bicycle a bit more? He is starting to get pretty beefy! Might not be alive to take that run in 08 if he doesn't back away from the feed trough! LOL

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        #23
        CP, Aren't Geo-thermal systems,ground source heat pumps the same? Do you have a Geo-thermal system? How do you like it? Do you run a 100MPG car? and how is that working out?

        Before you spaz at me please consider that my farm has been No-till since '86.

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          #24
          If David Suzuki and Al Gore really did give a damn about greenhouse gases they would be spending all of their time in China and India educating the Chinneese instead of us North Americans.

          I agree with you CP, those coal fire plants in China should have carbon scrubbers. But the likes of Jean Chretien and Stephie Dullyawn thought it wise to sign a wealth transfer treaty but didn't think it was important enough to press China or India into signing on.

          The Liberals were more worried about "Nuance" with China than world greenhouse gas levels.

          Kyoto isn't about reducing world wide levels of greenhouse gases, it's an ultra leftwing political movement in western society. It's "Red" with a "Green" wrapper. That's all it is.

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            #25
            put me down for climate change real just not man made along the same lines as Farm ranger and Adam Smith

            Some more books and speakers to look up are from Dr. Patrick Moore, PH.D, PH.D in Ecology Co founder of Green Peace look him up he is the real deal on environmentalism Not a big fan on Kyoto and the like. Says the environmental movement has been hijacked by failed socialists and the PETA's of the world.
            He talked at the A.U. annual members meeting and was perhaps the best speaker there.

            for more info www.greenspirit.com

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              #26
              The socialist fanatics,who once were religous social gospel types,are getting ready to move into the enviro-gospel.

              Here are the parallels;it cant be proven or disproven;calls on faith then;labels disbelievers as heretics using intimidation rather than argument.

              Whether we're talking 1. God/heaven;2.climate change or 3.cwb final payments:YOUR REWARD OR PUNISHMENT WILL COME AFTER YOUR DEAD,not in this lifetime.The believers can never be wrong.

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                #27
                winwin,

                What is "wrong"?

                The GOD I have put my faith, hope and trust in has these attributes;

                1) He gives complete choice to believe... or not to believe he exists

                2) He tells me I am responsible for what I do, and will reap what I sow.

                3) He gives my heart and mind confidence that all things will work for the best... if I Love him, and my neighbour... as myself.

                4) If I am wrong, and my God doesn't exist... there is no afterlife...I have lived a loving, free, caring life that respects others rights to be responsible for themselves...

                In the #4 senerio... it won't matter anyway... NO LOSS!

                I call this a winwin... any way you want to take it! (Pun Intended!)

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                  #28
                  Nice post Tom4cwb.
                  I would say that to lump God/heaven into the same category as the cwb is not really in the same category.

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                    #29
                    Geo-thermal=taking steam from the earth and spinning a turbine and creating electricity

                    Groud source heat pumps=transfering heat from the ground to your house or whatever,also works with bodies of water.Also works in reverse.

                    I dont know how the termonology got so screwed up.Maybe because geo-thermal just sounds cooler.

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                      #30
                      I was wondering about my 112 per square mile fact.

                      I think it was frannysisco who said what does pop density have to do with global warming,which the answer is-"everything".

                      What does everyone think of this fact?
                      It must give you pause.
                      Maybe a little perspective you might not have considered.

                      It seems to have shut parsly up.

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