Conspiracy Scores

[agstar77]

Suzuki is geneticist by trade whereas some of the the nutcases here have degrees in climatology and earthscience. He may a earnest spokesperson for the enviroment but he isn't a supreme being. He doesn't have the market cornered on wisdom or foretelling the future. A large volcanic eruption could do more to change our weather than any manmade event.

[cottonpicken]

Well i really do hope suzuki,gore and the scientific communitie are wrong.

5 billion people in this world dont have anything close to what the other 1.5 billion have but they want it.China is throwing up one coal fired power plant a week.Why would we not want to put a carbon scrubbing kit on those plants?Whats wrong with wind farms,Geo-thermal systems,ground source heat pumps,13 watt light bulbs,solar power(major breakthrew resently),cars that get 100 miles to the gallon,reducing,reusing,recycling,public transit etc,etc.

And here we go-"but gee whiz cotton we support all those ideas,but susuki and the rest of the greens are a bunch of nut jobs because man cant influence his environment"-and there your caught you believe in doing something about something you believe doesnt exist.

Im trying to think of the proper word that describes this thought pattern but have not come up with it.

[kamichel]

Tom cooking over shit gas just doesn't seem right. But I could check it out to support the cause, hehe

[Fransisco]

Cotton you need to spend a weekend with a book written by a guy who used to think just like you. He goes by the name of Bjorn Lomborg and the book is called 'The Skeptical Environmentalist'.

You'll find that the future for both mankind and the planet are incredibly positive.

[Fransisco]

And then if you really are interested in making the world a better place read his follow up book 'Global Crises, Global Solutions'.

[cowman]

Burbet: I have to agree with you that David Suzuki is pretty sharp! Most con men are? Hey lets face it he isn't out shovelling grain or feeding cows in snow up to his ass!
David Suzuki has taken his "schtick" and parlayed it into a multi-million dollar business...you can't call him a dummie!
And just look at old Al? Two oscars, maybe a Nobel prize, possibly another crack at the presidency...definitely not stupid...most "slickers" aren't?
These guys remind me of Jimmy Baker, wailing against sin and evil...while he was screwing all the secretaries! Can you say hypocrite?

[cowman]

One other thing: Someone needs to tell Al Gore to quit lazing about on the jet eating fritos and junk food? Maybe get out of the limo and ride the old bicycle a bit more? He is starting to get pretty beefy! Might not be alive to take that run in 08 if he doesn't back away from the feed trough! LOL

[wedino]

CP, Aren't Geo-thermal systems,ground source heat pumps the same? Do you have a Geo-thermal system? How do you like it? Do you run a 100MPG car? and how is that working out?

Before you spaz at me please consider that my farm has been No-till since '86.

[AdamSmith]

If David Suzuki and Al Gore really did give a damn about greenhouse gases they would be spending all of their time in China and India educating the Chinneese instead of us North Americans.

I agree with you CP, those coal fire plants in China should have carbon scrubbers. But the likes of Jean Chretien and Stephie Dullyawn thought it wise to sign a wealth transfer treaty but didn't think it was important enough to press China or India into signing on.

The Liberals were more worried about "Nuance" with China than world greenhouse gas levels.

Kyoto isn't about reducing world wide levels of greenhouse gases, it's an ultra leftwing political movement in western society. It's "Red" with a "Green" wrapper. That's all it is.

[just_wondering]

put me down for climate change real just not man made along the same lines as Farm ranger and Adam Smith

Some more books and speakers to look up are from Dr. Patrick Moore, PH.D, PH.D in Ecology Co founder of Green Peace look him up he is the real deal on environmentalism Not a big fan on Kyoto and the like. Says the environmental movement has been hijacked by failed socialists and the PETA's of the world.
He talked at the A.U. annual members meeting and was perhaps the best speaker there.

for more info www.greenspirit.com

[winwin]

The socialist fanatics,who once were religous social gospel types,are getting ready to move into the enviro-gospel.

Here are the parallels;it cant be proven or disproven;calls on faith then;labels disbelievers as heretics using intimidation rather than argument.

Whether we're talking 1. God/heaven;2.climate change or 3.cwb final payments:YOUR REWARD OR PUNISHMENT WILL COME AFTER YOUR DEAD,not in this lifetime.The believers can never be wrong.

[TOM4CWB]

winwin,

What is "wrong"?

The GOD I have put my faith, hope and trust in has these attributes;

1) He gives complete choice to believe... or not to believe he exists

2) He tells me I am responsible for what I do, and will reap what I sow.

3) He gives my heart and mind confidence that all things will work for the best... if I Love him, and my neighbour... as myself.

4) If I am wrong, and my God doesn't exist... there is no afterlife...I have lived a loving, free, caring life that respects others rights to be responsible for themselves...

In the #4 senerio... it won't matter anyway... NO LOSS!

I call this a winwin... any way you want to take it! (Pun Intended!)

[Jay-mo]

Nice post Tom4cwb.
I would say that to lump God/heaven into the same category as the cwb is not really in the same category.

[cottonpicken]

Geo-thermal=taking steam from the earth and spinning a turbine and creating electricity

Groud source heat pumps=transfering heat from the ground to your house or whatever,also works with bodies of water.Also works in reverse.

I dont know how the termonology got so screwed up.Maybe because geo-thermal just sounds cooler.

[cottonpicken]

I was wondering about my 112 per square mile fact.

I think it was frannysisco who said what does pop density have to do with global warming,which the answer is-"everything".

What does everyone think of this fact?
It must give you pause.
Maybe a little perspective you might not have considered.

It seems to have shut parsly up.