Conspiracy Scores

[cottonpicken]

Silverback i'm simply debating.
I could just as easily say franny is obsessed with changing my mind.It would get pretty boring here if people all believed the same thing.

Are you pissed theres a thread that doesnt have anything to do with the cwb?Are you obsessed with that?

Quit being such a freakin cry baby.

As far pop vs warming

MORE PEOPLE=MORE EMMISSIONS
GET IT?

[wedino]

Thanks, CP. ""Geo-thermal=taking steam from the earth and spinning a turbine and creating electricity""

Never too old to learn!!

[Fransisco]

If I have a nickel and I find another one I've doubled my money but I still ain't rich.

Same concept when it comes to people and emissions.

[Fransisco]

That's emissions with one 'm',not two.

[silverback]

AL GORE = POLITICIAN

GET IT ?

[wedino]

CP, Your ground source heat pump & your 100 MPG car, how are they working for you?

[AdamSmith]

View Litle Miss Apocalypse at
www.smalldeadanimals.com

It's pathetic, It's astonishing, It's just what you would expect from some enviro-whack job nutburger.

This is a National Post story about it.


Little Miss Apocalypse

David Suzuki's willing use of children to promote his 'ecophobic' terror of the end of the world is reprehensible

Peter Foster, Financial Post
Published: Wednesday, February 28, 2007

Little Miss Sunshine's Abigail Breslin isn't the only cute little girl to have made a media splash lately. Canada has seven-year-old Gillian Wiley, another adorable moppet, who is being promoted by eco-warrier David Suzuki as the star of his "If I Were Prime Minister" campaign.

Mr. Suzuki has just finished a cross-country propaganda bus tour, under the guise of seeking policy ideas. Needless to say, cutting taxes or removing trade barriers aren't the kind of recommendations that Mr. Suzuki was looking for.

As part of the campaign, he utilized YouTube to invite prime ministerial postings. "Tell me in 20 seconds or less what you would do," says Mr. Suzuki. "Would you make polluters pay? Give real protection to endangered species? Or show how Canada can help fight global warming? I want to hear your concerns and your solutions ... I'll make sure the politicians listen. Elect yourself at David Suzuki dot org."


Mr. Suzuki's favourite candidate so far is little Gillian. She delivers the message that if she were living on Sussex Drive, she would make some big changes "so that we don't destroy the planet with fossil fuels and carbon dioxide." She castigates SUVs, wants to stop the tar sands, and tells the camera that "Kyoto is not enough." This Littlest Pigovian wants to "institute a carbon tax right away."

Gillian is very obviously reading from a cue card. Only the final words of her message might possibly be her own: "If I were Prime Minister," she laughs, as if wanting to shake off all this forced earnestness, "I'd have blue hair."

Her performance was featured on Global News. Explaining why she did it, she points out, with admirable candour, that it was because her father had told her that afterward they could work on her cardboard castle. Her Dad, Keith, confesses the obvious: that he wrote her script, but he points out that he did it for her, and we should not doubt his good intentions.

Abigail is asked by the television reporter if she really does want to be Prime Minister when she grows up. "No," she states firmly. As for her hopes for the earth's future, she says: "A planet with no poisons, and," she concludes, with a slight hesitation--as if she really is smart enough to know that she's not sure what she's talking about -- "carbon dioxide."

I have an 11-year-old daughter, and I naturally attempt to guide and influence the way she thinks. I have deliberately tried to inject some skepticism into her when it comes to the environmental "education" to which she is subjected at school. I am also concerned that she should not be loaded with the sins of the world just yet, particularly when so much of what she is being taught is politically correct, parroted Pablum.

Educators are not dealing with "objective science" when it comes to climate change. Not only is the science of human contribution not "settled," despite the angry assertions of Mr. Suzuki, but the crucial features of this great debate are quite beyond the understanding of the vast majority of adults, let alone youngsters. It is all about ideological agendas that attempt to juice the science, cook the economics and ignore the politics, as the recent Stern review demonstrates. Most pernicious is the deliberate attempt to induce anxiety in the young.

According to one press report, when Al Gore came to town last week, a mother who had been unable to get tickets called up the University of Toronto and said that her daughter hadn't been able to sleep since seeing An Inconvenient Truth. She claimed that seeing Mr. Gore in person might make her daughter feel better: that another dose of Gore-y detail would take away the terror that he had inspired in the first place.

Education experts have apparently coined a term, "ecophobia," for the dread and helplessness children feel when confronted with apocalyptic forecasts. According to a recent British survey, half of the children between the ages of seven and 11 are anxious about the effects of global warming and often lose sleep over it. And that, remember, is without any identifiable effects, since no particular weather occurrence can be linked to anthropogenic climate change, despite all the hysterical invocation of Hurricane Katrina.

The urge to nurture and protect children is universal. This explains why they are so often used by those with an ideological -- or sometimes merely hypocritical -- purpose. Keith Wylie doesn't come into either of these categories. He obviously loves his daughter, but his decision to make her the mouthpiece for his own anxieties is questionable. Much more reprehensible is David Suzuki's presentation of these ideas as if they were the thoughts of a seven-year-old.

Let's hope little Gillian regarded her YouTube performance as just the price of getting her cardboard palace built, and that she won't lose any sleep over the words she was reading.

[Fransisco]

Good article. Does this quote remind us of anyone?

<blockquote>"Education experts have apparently coined a term, "ecophobia," for the dread and helplessness children feel when confronted with apocalyptic forecasts. According to a recent British survey, half of the children between the ages of seven and 11 are anxious about the effects of global warming and often lose sleep over it."</blockquote>

[parsley]

.........and wet the bed

[AdamSmith]

Yeah, well I saw no need to state the obvious.

[Fransisco]

Those wouldn't happen to be cotton sheets on the bed?

[mustardman]

To all you climate change naysayers.

Please look at the calender.

It is not 1997

It is 2007

The denial threads you posted could have come from the 90's. We are LONG
PAST the Denial stage.

If you want to join the Flat Earth Society I'm sure you can look in the Alberta yellow pages for a chapter near you.

[parsley]

CP,

Looks like voters have thrown in the towel (I think on how effective Kyoto would be) on

http://www.davidsuzuki.org/

Would you agree there's a bit of a problem?

IMHO, most people want to be environemntally friendly, it's just that the Kyoto approach was so dumb, it was deadlinably unfeasible in the first place.

BAD PLANNING, Stephane.

Parsley

[mustardman]

"One ought never turn one's back on a threatened danger and try to run away from it.
If you do that, you will double the danger.
But if you meet it promptly and without flinching, you will reduce the danger by half."
- Sir Winston Churchill

[FarmRanger]

"There's a sucker born every minute...and two to take 'em." Joseph ("Paper Collar" Joe) Bessimer, quote often attributed to P.T. Barnum.

"There's a sucker born every minute...and two to take 'em." Joseph ("Paper Collar" Joe) Bessimer, quote often attributed to P.T. Barnum.

"Never underestimate the power of very stupid people in large groups." John Kenneth Galbraith