Not one western MP or MLA standing up for farmers and the failed farm programs

[furrowtickler]

Furrow, I Sympathize with the situation.
But is that a revenue problem or an expense problem?

What if those yields are closer to normal, it is our expectations which were unreasonable based on a period of anomalous weather?

While I fully acknowledge that Canada does not set world crop prices, any type of revenue insurance certainly does not send the required market signal to producers in times of surplus supply. It has the exact opposite effect. I don't see how government assistance can make that situation any better in the long run.

Not looking for government assistance at all , just pointing out reality of numbers .
it’s both a revenue and expense problem.
I said 2 months ago net revenues are going to be an extremely low levels and that without any government assistance. There seems to be an attitude out there that tax payers are subsidizing every farm every year
simply not the case at all most of the time .
All we can do is hope for better returns from the market. Just the way it is this year.
most would vastly prefer to have zero government involvement or support.
vast majority of farms do operate as efficiently as possible and try to keeps costs at a minimum, around here anyway.
but even with modest inputs the costs are getting out of hand on everything else . Buy any parts lately ?? New or used equipment breaks down .
land rent shot up dramatically, but even for those not chasing land it has cost everyone way more now that the Monnettes moved in. Now every land lord wants more .

no easy answers, and yes you bring up some very valid points .
but the entire ag industry needs a reset , not just what we do on our farms

[AlbertaFarmer5]

That is one area where perhaps government intervention could be warranted. Outside investment money is subsidizing large possibly unprofitable farms driving the cost of rent and land up above its justified value. And that is driving up the cost of production for even most efficient producers.
And since we are competing on a global marketplace, having an artificially high cost of production due to internal competition which adds nothing to productivity is certainly a big problem.

One could take the approach that the free market will sort this out eventually. Investors will lose interest in losing money. If these mega farms are not profitable they will inevitably go broke. Land costs will come down.
But in the meantime, the remaining responsible producers will have bid up our own cost of production much higher than necessary in an attempt to keep up with this outside money. How many years or decades will it take for those costs to work their way through the system so we can again be competitive on the world stage?

Or do these outside investors and mega farms know something the rest of us don't know? Maybe securing land for the long term even at a loss will look like a brilliant strategy eventually?

[furrowtickler]

Many factors going on for sure
and not a lot make any sense whatsoever

[quadtrac]

Last time I checked farmers ARE taxpayers as well. And in majority of cases pay much much more tax over their lifetime than the average wage earner.
just putting that out there….
please by all means cancel all the farm programs the same day we get to pay the same amount of taxes as an average Joe Shmoe

[furrowtickler]

Last time I checked farmers ARE taxpayers as well. And in majority of cases pay much much more tax over their lifetime than the average wage earner.
just putting that out there….
please by all means cancel all the farm programs the same day we get to pay the same amount of taxes as an average Joe Shmoe

Bingo , finally someone said it out loud

[cropgrower]

yes farmers pay a huge amount of tax , and i hope all my tax dollars go to some other less fortunate farmer

[TSIPP]

If you don’t support farmers, don’t eat!

[bucket]

It's mind numbing the resources that Canada has that have been shuttered because of this government. Natural gas, all ag exports, oil , etc etc. Instead this government runs deficits with so called full employment . It is major incompetence . We should be running in the black.

[WiltonRanch]

Even mega corrupt Russia can get resources to market more effectively.

[fjlip]

And Ukraine while fighting a war! Record exports