Not one western MP or MLA standing up for farmers and the failed farm programs

[AlbertaFarmer5]

I think one poster forgot this was the adult page and not Chuck's daycare. It was a constructive civil discussion until then.

[furrowtickler]

Government is the worst business partner you could have.

Absolutely agree

[blackpowder]

Absolutely agree

I too agree.
But let's not forget GRIP bought land for some around here.

[furrowtickler]

I too agree.
But let's not forget GRIP bought land for some around here.

Yup same here , especially west of here in 2001 and ‘02

we got zip out of GRIP basically
it only helped those who had good crops the years before
2000 we were wiped out with hail so 2001 drought we got SFA

[blackpowder]

And whatever we got went to cash flow. If you were already easily profitable, it bought land or new cars.
That's the way a subsidy works I guess. Doesn't look like Agristab will pay for this year.

[westernvicki]

AgriStability.
How many left in it.

[blackpowder]

Dunno, what people say and do are different things. Some accountants and bankers recommend.

[westernvicki]

Here is an except from a post I did in Linkedin.

Tsunami in Agriculture.

Farm analyst Larry Weber says: “A whopping amount of hurt is coming.”

The warning sirens were easy to overlook. It’s summer, with a crop in the ground and thirty-degree weather impacting yield on your mind—the reluctance to forward price commodities high.

Canola has been 54% of Saskatchewan's gross farm income. It is considered a golden crop for good reason. However, prices have fallen 37% in 2022-2024, $651/mt from the high, and a whopping $100 a tonne in July alone. Indeed, forecasted price erosion is expected to take the price down to 2008 levels and carry the commodity complex lower.

With combines headed for the harvest, the sobering reality of commodity price drop is impossible to ignore.

The collapse of this gross farm income will impact the sector, not just farmers, and has the potential to rock the industry from pillar to post. After years of higher prices, many vulnerable sectors, like machine yards, are filled with excess inventory.

Inputs never drop as quickly.

The cost of operations has increased.

Farm debt is high.

Global demand is lackluster.


And I will echo the words of Jason Dearborn:
Don't expect a safety net.

Strategic Ag policy has not been a focus of our ag associations, who only look at production. Many of whom will be enjoying the perks of annual conventions, unlikely the agendas change focus at all.

Adjustments are required.

[the big wheel]

If you dont expect gov to assist in this disaster thats fine but if thats the way it is then you should be screaming mad and do something about the fact that farms that have had perfect weather and big crops with high prices, besides the crooks and there are a long list of fraud in the agristability program that no one investigates in the last 5 years will be the only ones receiving any money out of Agristability, and in some cases it will be huge payouts. Meanwhile the areas with any losses the last 5 years will get absolutley nothing.
Its already happenned in our area these smart asses backed by agristability or a foreign gov buying out farms that cant continue due to no help at all. They bring their higher yields with them with crop insurance and then collect massive amounts on the crop side because no body grows in a drought. How does it make sense for this to occur both on crop insurance and agristability? Either everyone gets compensated for the low prices or nobody. The agristibility program is a corrupt vehicle for foreign and larger farm overtake of our land.

[fcr]

I dont mind paying my fair share of taxes, if that money stays in Canada, but our federal govt seems to think we need to support the rest of the world over our own.I spent a couple months last winter in south america and those countries all look after their own people with limited resoucres better than we do.The waste of taxpayers dollars over the last ten years needs to be revealed to the public before this next federal election.Its sickening.

[AlbertaFarmer5]

If you dont expect gov to assist in this disaster thats fine but if thats the way it is then you should be screaming mad and do something about the fact that farms that have had perfect weather and big crops with high prices, ....
Either everyone gets compensated for the low prices or nobody

You could have saved the rest of the rant and just said that you are resentful that someone else might be more successful than you are.
Spoken like a true socialist.

How do you propose to equalize that injustice?

Do you support the plan that LEP proposes, seemed to work well for the USSR when all Farmers got the same compensation.

[cropgrower]

i'm not in agristability , but any farmer that is and has a number of good years and then income takes a dive and gets a payout then good for them , if they played by the rules of the stupid program great that they made it work , begrudgery is a terrible thing , some cant bear to see others getting ahead