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    #11
    Hmmmmm
    maybe just maybe the ag industry should wake up !!!!!!!
    absolutely everyone up and down the feed chain better wake the *** up

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      #12
      We are losing made in Canada companies, and that is not good. As indeed the world has cheaper sources with better logistics than us.

      Freight rates went through the roof this fall, shippers lower than 135 railcar loading sites are less competitive.

      Its a changing paradigm.

      And that is why we need diverse companies and a new way to insure our grain in transit.

      PS
      Herc your marketing decisions start with the crop choice and variety you grow.
      Call me anytime.




      Last edited by westernvicki; Sep 19, 2024, 07:55.

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        #13
        It is a good thing grainco's locally are preventing this from happening around here by offering the poorest basis of all times thus fattening margins.

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          #14
          The basis needs to include a huge freight increase.

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            #15
            It's too bad about NWT. I dealt there alittle and always found them to be fair.

            They ran longer hours year round because of the ethanol plant. It was alittle different being able to dump at 10pm in January. But I always thought it probably gained them business. I can also remember being in line ups 12 trucks deep at times.

            Because it is a location that can be served cn or cp it will be bought up quickly.

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              #16
              I worked at the ethonal plant for 2 yrs during commission and first fire. Didn't have much to do with NWT terminal but always heard positive things coming from the elevator side. Sad to see

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                #17
                Originally posted by LEP View Post
                Been watching their information posted on sedar all winter. They have had a tonne of losses that they have borrowed to cover.

                They were at the point of not having the working capital to operate at a profitable capacity. There was no way they could work their way out of the situation.

                Only answer was a sale to someone like Grainconnect or G3. But they can read statements and know that they can fight over the scraps in receivership.
                LEP,

                Do you have insight into the source of the losses, I e. trading, lack of volume, etc?

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by wheatking16 View Post

                  LEP,

                  Do you have insight into the source of the losses, I e. trading, lack of volume, etc?
                  From the financial statements it looks like trading losses. I didn't go back in history, but 2021 was hard on the entire ag sector.

                  The ethanol plant lost money even though they sell alot into the micro distillery industry.

                  I don't have any inside information.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by LEP View Post

                    From the financial statements it looks like trading losses. I didn't go back in history, but 2021 was hard on the entire ag sector.

                    The ethanol plant lost money even though they sell alot into the micro distillery industry.

                    I don't have any inside information.
                    Thanks

                    Trading losses makes sense to me, but I don't know, the grain business has been difficult the past few years.

                    I think it is an extremely difficult, high-risk task.

                    The ABCD's have been becoming more vertically integrated into the country as the trading profits are not where they used to be.

                    Trading commodities effectively requires a lot of experience, and mentorship is crucial.

                    It is not for the faint of heart.

                    All the respect to those who can last.

                    Johnathon Kingsman has some great books on commodity traders, some of which I have read.

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                      #20
                      Well once again we learn the lesson that there are exactly zero businesses here in shitholistan that make money on there own merit. This is why there is a PHENOMENAL amount of gubmint tit sucking going on around here. NWT was likely trying to juice returns through commodity speculation which always ends badly. Admittedly there are likely a few oil and gas business that do make it on there own but otherwise no.

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