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    #16
    Some people just like to complicate situations.

    All water in any hole on land, does not belong to you. How do you get paid by someone that wants the water that you have no right to sell?

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      #17
      We used to get lots of beer and boxes and boxes of shotgun shells. Most of the guys where quite happy to be able to shoot those swath crapping birds. Not many come up here like years ago.

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        #18
        Sure can be a soap opera here with locals getting in snits over prime hunting ground. Deer meat tastes like goat to me which I don’t care for. Moose and elk though yummy. That’s a stipulation for ones with moose and elk tags they share some. Far as outfitters I have a good relationship with a local who guides some Americans fowl hunts. Obviously they can’t pay you anything legally but a sign of appreciation at Christmas like a turkey or something goes a long way. Though there was an outfit set up and I think they are American who didn’t take long to piss everyone off being complete douche bags. Most reputable outfitters go out of their way to do things right and respect the land, wildlife, and landowners. Few bad apples gives the rest a bad name.

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          #19
          Originally posted by BreadWinner View Post
          Lately every time a goose lands in our field we are swarmed with American Hunting Guides working for an American hunting outfitter. The US hunters are paying $1200 US per day to be guided onto our land to shoot 100s of white geese. The guide camp is a camp of deluxe accommodation in the metropolis of Clair SK. The camp supplies are all shipped in by refer from south of the border. All this money being passed around is headed right back across that US border and the lonely land owner that let them hunt gets jack $hit. Picture this…Today they pulled in with a 30ft flat deck covered in straw that 10 guys sit on and shoot out of. That’s $12000 to hunt on a guys land for 1 day and all I get is woken up at 6:00 am to them pounding the buckshot into the sky. I think something is wrong with this picture.
          Honestly, this hurts the guys who do come to the area, and have for many decades that have a hard time finding land they can hunt on because the outfitters somehow book them up. These are the guys that eat at restaurant's, buy grocery's, rent houses all from people in our area. They are wage earners like the rest of us and will eventually not come back if the fun of the sport isn't available to them.

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            #20
            I have some guides who bring American hunters to hunt on our land. My understanding was the need to hire local Canadians to escort them. Some of that money must stay local.

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              #21
              Originally posted by farmaholic View Post
              I did not know that. Why? Because the geese aren't the landowner's?

              .....not like the geese own the land, but the landowner's don't own the geese. I don't understand why the landowner can't be paid for access, it's his land.
              Who's this farma guy?

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                #22
                Generally good relations here.

                One thing I've stipulated as of late, after permission is granted, is to phone the morning you're heading out.

                Been caught a couple times where numerous individuals have permission and they all seem to end up at the same place at the same time. Also been caught where I'm soil sampling later in the fall and I can hear ricochets flying past me! A courtesy call certainly helps avoid that

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                  #23
                  So, what your saying is, you can't deny access to an outfitter to make money off of the land you own? They can just set up shop anywhere they want? It kind of seems like that's the way the conversation is going. I let some guys from Iowa hunt birds once, kicked them out after a couple days. Never again. I also have learned to only allow close friends and family, and myself to hunt big game on my property as well. I'm done fighting with hunters. Go set up a BBQ in someone's back yard in the city and bring your friends, see how that goes over.

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                    #24
                    You can absolutely deny access to your property. You just can't charge for access to the King's game.
                    Only etiquette requires access to one at a time. And if the hunters are smart, they keep the squabbles to themselves. If someone else there, just leave. That's where the friction exists.

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                      #25
                      fee for parking!

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                        #26
                        Americans have always gifted stuff, Shrimp from Carolinas, cheese from Wisconsin, Kentucky Bourbon...or just rum from store here.

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                          #27
                          I allow most people to hunt on any my land anytime, but only for a couple days at a time. We have one American outfitter here and is very generous, we’ve received hats, bunny hugs, Milwaukee grease guns and leaf blowers and many other things.

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