Af11 / cr11

[furrowtickler]

There have been several demo’s in area and on YouTube
extremely impressive machines with a whole new level of harvest capacities and extremely low losses.
if I were Deere / Fendt / Lexion I would be very nervous

[Herc]

Only one that would be nervous would be lexion. Fendt never took off and if you have one it’s a huge lawn ornament. Deere guys buy green no matter what.

RIP claas…..

[Rareearth]

It would be very interesting to see the stats on reliability, uptime, etc
- parts sold (and how many)
- service calls ( repaired items)

I can figure out the costs of parts, service and downtime.

Does John Deere opps center provide this info?

When service techs are in high demand, and there is a shortage of good ones, this would be a new level of customer service that farmers would quickly “buy into”.

Imagine working together, mutual benefits, productivity, sustainability, efficiency

[LEP]

Generally we get average crops with not much straw or MOG.

We run class 8 combines. I have real trouble seeing how we need anything more than a class 9, let alone a class 11 combine.

From what I have seen you get a class 9 by dialing down the hp on a class 10 or 11. Hardly cost effective for the farmer.

[LEP]

I am all for the twin rotor design. I think it is a superior setup, though having Rocky as the service provider kinda ruins the interest.

[furrowtickler]

Yes the 11’s will be for selective areas no doubt
And selective farms , most likely never ours either, but they will have a fit on large farms where they can cut out 2-3 combines from a fleet . That will be the target
The CR10 that is identical other than horsepower will have a fit in more areas .
two of those will easily replace three class 9’s .
There will be many factors on every area and farm if they fit or not and of course the cost which all are crazy now including headers .
will be interesting watching from the sidelines regardless

[furrowtickler]

One farm here running 7 combines , headers and operators could easily run 4 and most likely be more cost effective and efficient, but time will tell .

[FarmJunkie]

Quite honestly we find going to the bigger machines is only cost effective and efficient when crop conditions are somewhat close to perfect. If the crop is flat and ground conditions are poor the machines are no better than a class 9. Also depends on crops u grow. Pulses and tough to thrash crops like flax and canary u don’t make up much time over the smaller machines. Does eliminate more drivers on the combine side but possibly adds one or two on the truck side if the large machines can run at their maximum capacity. Overall I wouldn’t go back to the smaller machines but do have frustration with the money spent for the reduced productivity some days due to less than ideal crop conditions.

[bucket]

Productivity means machines are running, when you are waiting for parts due to substandard manufacturing or poor quality parts or the emissions shut you down and need a tech to reset, those machines are no longer productive as the older smaller ones.

An X9 or equivalent for a 20bpa lentil crop seems overkill. And to date I haven't seen a header able to cut lentils at +7mph without having the ripping look to them.

[FarmJunkie]

Productivity means machines are running, when you are waiting for parts due to substandard manufacturing or poor quality parts or the emissions shut you down and need a tech to reset, those machines are no longer productive as the older smaller ones.

An X9 or equivalent for a 20bpa lentil crop seems overkill. And to date I haven't seen a header able to cut lentils at +7mph without having the ripping look to them.

Exactly my point

[furrowtickler]

Yup , these new machines will be for selective areas, like I said it will be interesting watching from the sidelines .

[bucket]

Exactly my point

I think manufacturers are chasing a market share that may lead to an oversupply of extra large combines that are hard to sell to the second buyer.


But the first manufacturer allowed to build a new and slightly improved JD9500 equivalent without all the emissions crap and a comfortable cab , slightly larger grain hopper and heavier drives with no automatics and the monitors out of the way will have a real winner.

Nothing irritates me more than being asked if I want my combine settings changed once I get it dialled in for the crop.

[biglentil]

The problem with going fast in crops like lentils and canola is reel loss. So go wider right but a 45ft heads seem to be about the maximum for getting down roads in my area. Driving down some of our tight approaches with a 61' in tow, yikes.

[bucket]

The problem with going fast in crops like lentils and canola is reel loss. So go wider right but a 45ft heads seem to be about the maximum for getting down roads in my area. Driving down some of our tight approaches with a 61' in tow, yikes.

its also about how your header fits the land. My 35footer fit the land better than the 40foot I have now. Just little skips and misses that show up due to not fitting the rolling contours.

[furrowtickler]

We find the 45 ft Mac Don flex cuts way cleaner than our 35 fts we used to run .
and we have a lot of very sharp hog backs