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    #16
    And no they are not even close to new or expensive
    they are older FD75’s that have been rebuilt , ones a 2016 and a 2018 with lots of miles on em

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      #17
      Some of this was literally laying in the furrows

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        #18
        Originally posted by bucket View Post

        I think manufacturers are chasing a market share that may lead to an oversupply of extra large combines that are hard to sell to the second buyer.


        But the first manufacturer allowed to build a new and slightly improved JD9500 equivalent without all the emissions crap and a comfortable cab , slightly larger grain hopper and heavier drives with no automatics and the monitors out of the way will have a real winner.

        Nothing irritates me more than being asked if I want my combine settings changed once I get it dialled in for the crop.
        Don’t think ur gonna like the price of an updated 9500 either…..

        My guess it be north of $500k.

        I get the argument for sure, there has to be a correction soon cause a $400k used combine didn’t make sense to most, let alone a million dollar one.

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          #19
          I definitely agree on the bigger header and slower ground speed.
          Already seeing the local dealer having some issues moving all the BTOs 1 year old equipment so they are becoming creative trying to get the mid sized farmers into the overpriced bigger machines

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            #20
            They are not depreciating those big combines enough. Does the work of 2 or 3 units but dealers are trading them into new for 1.25x cost of S790 trade.

            If used X9 were $750k like they should be they would be selling fast.

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              #21
              Originally posted by poorboy View Post
              They are not depreciating those big combines enough. Does the work of 2 or 3 units but dealers are trading them into new for 1.25x cost of S790 trade.

              If used X9 were $750k like they should be they would be selling fast.
              Absolutely agree , that’s with all colours
              they only give the deal to the first buyer, everyone else get the shaft
              that’s why the dealers are $200,000 above the auction prices on same machine, dealers are screwed and it’s there own fault for catering to the “big guys”
              it’s been happening for 6 months, and about to get worse, or better for those with patience.
              just sit on sidelines , big scrambling going on at dealerships now . They have expected the second buyer to pick up the cost of the first, it ain’t happening.
              And it’s about fukin time

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                #22
                When the big guys can’t make it work with 30-35% off , there is going to be a massive chain reaction.

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                  #23
                  In a crazy way it’s like NDP / liberal thinking that someone else will always pick up the tab for their spending habits …. Guess what it’s done

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                    #24
                    Originally posted by bucket View Post

                    But the first manufacturer allowed to build a new and slightly improved JD9500 equivalent without all the emissions crap and a comfortable cab , slightly larger grain hopper and heavier drives with no automatics and the monitors out of the way will have a real winner.

                    Nothing irritates me more than being asked if I want my combine settings changed once I get it dialled in for the crop.
                    Excluding the “without emissions” part isn’t that the 2017 and later T670. From what I’ve read it’s wider, longer and more HP vs earlier T670s / rebadged 9600s. Basically 9770 capacity in a conventional.

                    The newly announced T6-800 would have the automation and most likely cost 750k or more.

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                      #25
                      Originally posted by Dr Tone View Post

                      Excluding the “without emissions” part isn’t that the 2017 and later T670. From what I’ve read it’s wider, longer and more HP vs earlier T670s / rebadged 9600s. Basically 9770 capacity in a conventional.

                      The newly announced T6-800 would have the automation and most likely cost 750k or more.
                      Its crazy. In 1997 bought a new JD 9500 for $155000. nice machine .

                      You are right a new equivalent would be north of $700,000.

                      Wheat or any crop hasn't went up by 4.5 times in the same time period and stayed there.

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                        #26
                        ALL the prices are a RIP OFF! Half those $ be closer.

                        1982, new 7720 was $105,000. Hydro chopper AC.

                        1981 7721 PT was $49000 new

                        1976 6600 non hydro, AC chopper was $38,000

                        1973 IHC 815 cab no AC, no chopper was $19000 new

                        1964 IHC 403 no cab no chopper was $9000 new

                        1947 JD 55 first year out, was about $5000
                        Last edited by fjlip; Oct 5, 2024, 09:00.

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                          #27
                          In hyperinflationary Venezuela a hamburger costs a weeks salary. Its not that things are going up in value its the dollars losing purchasing power. Inflation of the money supply is akin to theft from savers and wage earners.

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                            #28
                            Interesting statistics from the Association of Equipment Manufacturers. Combine sales in Canada were up 5.7% year to date in July 2024. But if you compare July 2024 to July 2023 sales are 28% lower. If you compare August 2024 to August 2023 sales are 36.5% lower. So the bloom is off the rose. Source was an article in the most recent Alberta Farm Express.

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                              #29
                              Originally posted by fjlip View Post
                              ALL the prices are a RIP OFF! Half those $ be closer.

                              1982, new 7720 was $105,000. Hydro chopper AC.

                              1981 7721 PT was $49000 new

                              1973 IHC 815 was $19000 new

                              1964 IHC 403 was $9000 new

                              1947 JD 55 first year out, was about $5000
                              Interesting numbers. A John Deere combine in 1982 was over 5 times as expensive as an International 9 years earlier. A 7720 would also be a bit larger combine, so not apples to apples.

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                                #30
                                Originally posted by Hamloc View Post

                                Interesting numbers. A John Deere combine in 1982 was over 5 times as expensive as an International 9 years earlier. A 7720 would also be a bit larger combine, so not apples to apples.
                                That be around same time land took off to $1000/ac. Price of a combine and quarter of land have been relatively close to one another over the years.

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