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[bucket]

Excluding the “without emissions” part isn’t that the 2017 and later T670. From what I’ve read it’s wider, longer and more HP vs earlier T670s / rebadged 9600s. Basically 9770 capacity in a conventional.

The newly announced T6-800 would have the automation and most likely cost 750k or more.

Its crazy. In 1997 bought a new JD 9500 for $155000. nice machine .

You are right a new equivalent would be north of $700,000.

Wheat or any crop hasn't went up by 4.5 times in the same time period and stayed there.

[fjlip]

ALL the prices are a RIP OFF! Half those $ be closer.

1982, new 7720 was $105,000. Hydro chopper AC.

1981 7721 PT was $49000 new

1976 6600 non hydro, AC chopper was $38,000

1973 IHC 815 cab no AC, no chopper was $19000 new

1964 IHC 403 no cab no chopper was $9000 new

1947 JD 55 first year out, was about $5000

[biglentil]

In hyperinflationary Venezuela a hamburger costs a weeks salary. Its not that things are going up in value its the dollars losing purchasing power. Inflation of the money supply is akin to theft from savers and wage earners.

[Hamloc]

Interesting statistics from the Association of Equipment Manufacturers. Combine sales in Canada were up 5.7% year to date in July 2024. But if you compare July 2024 to July 2023 sales are 28% lower. If you compare August 2024 to August 2023 sales are 36.5% lower. So the bloom is off the rose. Source was an article in the most recent Alberta Farm Express.

[Hamloc]

ALL the prices are a RIP OFF! Half those $ be closer.

1982, new 7720 was $105,000. Hydro chopper AC.

1981 7721 PT was $49000 new

1973 IHC 815 was $19000 new

1964 IHC 403 was $9000 new

1947 JD 55 first year out, was about $5000

Interesting numbers. A John Deere combine in 1982 was over 5 times as expensive as an International 9 years earlier. A 7720 would also be a bit larger combine, so not apples to apples.

[Herc]

Interesting numbers. A John Deere combine in 1982 was over 5 times as expensive as an International 9 years earlier. A 7720 would also be a bit larger combine, so not apples to apples.

That be around same time land took off to $1000/ac. Price of a combine and quarter of land have been relatively close to one another over the years.

[AlbertaFarmer5]

That be around same time land took off to $1000/ac. Price of a combine and quarter of land have been relatively close to one another over the years.

That puts it into perspective.

The new combine looks like a bargain compared to land.

The size of the land hasn't increased, the combine capacity certainly has. PAMI rated a 7720 at 16.4 Tonnes per hour in wheat. The 10.9 set a wheat record at 135 tonnes per hour in wheat. Almost 10 times. With a few more creature comforts thrown in.

If anything land is shrinking here. Almost no acreages out in 1980, 1 or 2 out of every quarter here.

Productivity of land hasn't increased 10 times like a combine has. Wheat yields have almost doubled since 1980.

[ColevilleH2S]

... PAMI rated a 7720 at 16.4 Tonnes per hour in wheat. The 10.9 set a wheat record at 135 tonnes per hour in wheat. Almost 10 times...

The 7720 wasn't rated using 200 bus/ac winter wheat, and the 10.9 didn't make that record in 40 bus/ac Katepwa

[AlbertaFarmer5]

What is the realistic comparison? I tried to find an apples to apples comparison but nothing popped up on Google.

The new combine is definitely A lot more than double, which is what the productivity of the land has done in the same period of time.

[fjlip]

Well those old fellows in the 50's, IH 125 and IH 127 together, did 1000 bu per day.

My Mom hauled the wheat and kept notes of bushels on door of wooden bin, wish I had saved the door. 100 bu per hour, JD 620 and Inland hopper box.

Oh ya and they bought a quarter for $6000.

We averaged 704 bu/sephr over this harvest, S690.

Last quarter near us $500,000

[Grahamp]

Well those old fellows in the 50's, IH 125 and IH 127 together, did 1000 bu per day.

My Mom hauled the wheat and kept notes of bushels on door of wooden bin, wish I had saved the door. 100 bu per hour, JD 620 and Inland hopper box.

Oh ya and they bought a quarter for $6000.

We averaged 704 bu/sephr over this harvest, S690.

Last quarter near us $500,000

This beautifully sums up agriculture. We are 10x more efficient/productive with roughly 100x expenses.

[Hamloc]

That puts it into perspective.

The new combine looks like a bargain compared to land.

The size of the land hasn't increased, the combine capacity certainly has. PAMI rated a 7720 at 16.4 Tonnes per hour in wheat. The 10.9 set a wheat record at 135 tonnes per hour in wheat. Almost 10 times. With a few more creature comforts thrown in.

If anything land is shrinking here. Almost no acreages out in 1980, 1 or 2 out of every quarter here.

Productivity of land hasn't increased 10 times like a combine has. Wheat yields have almost doubled since 1980.

Back in the eighties I remember we went 2.75 mph on a 21 foot swath with a 75 bushel crop, 2.25 with a 100 bushel crop, 7721 combine with a 4640 pulling it. Today on a similar barley crop with a 35 foot straight cut header on a CIH 8230 we go 3.2 on a 110 bushel crop last year, 4.2 on a 75 bushel crop this year. So 2.5 times as many acres per hour at 4.2. As far as yield improvements on barley, we used to grow six row, now we grow 2 row, similar bushel yields but 10 percent better bushel weights now.