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    #16
    A healthy plant all year gives you a return. Some years massive some not so much.

    strait cut I like better than swath. Nice black seed and clean fields.

    yes when it gets to grey it drops pods

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      #17
      Sprayed half a field of Canola with Cotegra zero yield difference. Check I left on durum at fusariam timing zero yield difference. Lentils I didn't leave a check, seen too many wrecks with those.

      Heard a fellow state a 15bus improvement on the fungicided Canola. It's a crap shoot.
      Last edited by biglentil; Oct 11, 2024, 22:40.

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        #18
        Damn straight it's a crapshoot.
        Remember a lot of different management zones prairie wide.

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          #19
          Traditionally we spray all barley, almost all of the wheat and a part of the canola. This year we had a bunch of old Lance carried over from recent dry years and used it on canola. It was very visible where sprayed at harvest time. It was not a huge difference but was worth it in the canola. We also used a generic Quadris on the canola, kinda think we are going to go this was for a cheaper price option than the name brand products

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            #20
            Left a section on Canola and yes there is a difference.

            Don't fool yourself.

            Some years lots some not much.

            Healthy plant makes yield.

            Or roll the dice and take what you get.

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              #21
              This was the first year in many where fungicide on canola paid … some
              Split a half section , ended up around 5 bushel better where sprayed . Huge difference in low areas , minimal on average areas and nil on high spots … which is expected in areas that run out of moisture in July and only low areas have enough moisture to finish .

              The low areas in the non sprayed field were full of disease.
              agree 100 percent that you need healthy plant to reach yield potential. Most years here it’s lack of moisture that’s the limiting factor on 80% on the land not disease .
              that’s where I think variable rate fungicide would save thousands and still give the same results in many areas in western Canada.
              Or simply targeting susceptible areas only with drones could be very beneficial in many areas where moisture is the limiting factor not disease across the board . That goes for most crops actually in this area at least .
              fungicides are not cheap , neither is trampling or arial spraying , timing and effectiveness is also a huge issue as well as time and depreciation on equipment.
              But a healthy crop is needed to get reasonably decent returns .
              Will be nice when genetics can eliminate / reduce fungicides while maintaining yield . Some canola and wheat varieties are close to that already .

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                #22
                Won't use the plane here again unless too wet.

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                  #23
                  Originally posted by blackpowder View Post
                  Won't use the plane here again unless too wet.
                  probably same here
                  I was not overly impressed with coverage where needed with helicopter spraying this year
                  More consistent with ground rig . Plane was very decent, but used on only selective fields

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                    #24
                    I used helicopter and plane.Happy with plane , not so much with helicopter however a few BTO here use them every year on canola and are happy.

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                      #25
                      Helicopter to me is like a spraycoup that flies.
                      Too small of a tank (140usg)and to short booms(35ft)?
                      Never have enough water for anything but bugs and maybe glyfo in some cases?
                      Those old spraycoups worked best when you had conditions where you could basically drift a fine spray on.
                      Lots of problems came with that and they mostly disappeared.
                      Aren't they doing the same thing with airplanes and helicopters?

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                        #26
                        Originally posted by furrowtickler View Post
                        This was the first year in many where fungicide on canola paid … some
                        Split a half section , ended up around 5 bushel better where sprayed . Huge difference in low areas , minimal on average areas and nil on high spots … which is expected in areas that run out of moisture in July and only low areas have enough moisture to finish .

                        The low areas in the non sprayed field were full of disease.
                        agree 100 percent that you need healthy plant to reach yield potential. Most years here it’s lack of moisture that’s the limiting factor on 80% on the land not disease .
                        that’s where I think variable rate fungicide would save thousands and still give the same results in many areas in western Canada.
                        Or simply targeting susceptible areas only with drones could be very beneficial in many areas where moisture is the limiting factor not disease across the board . That goes for most crops actually in this area at least .
                        fungicides are not cheap , neither is trampling or arial spraying , timing and effectiveness is also a huge issue as well as time and depreciation on equipment.
                        But a healthy crop is needed to get reasonably decent returns .
                        Will be nice when genetics can eliminate / reduce fungicides while maintaining yield . Some canola and wheat varieties are close to that already .
                        On canola I tried 2 different products: Active Flower from Active Agriscience and 42PHI from ATP Ag. My thought was it was too dry for fungicides and the companies claim improved podding from their product. Neither made any measurable difference. As far as disease in the canola from no fungicide, there was one small affected area out of all our fields of less than an acre, so roughly .1%. Fungicides would not have payed in canola this year. As for cereals, I had roughly 250 acres of wheat I did not apply fungicide on, roughly 25% of our acres. No difference in yield, bushel weight, protein or grading. Too dry here for fungicides or foliar’s to pay this year.

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                          #27
                          Originally posted by Hamloc View Post

                          On canola I tried 2 different products: Active Flower from Active Agriscience and 42PHI from ATP Ag. My thought was it was too dry for fungicides and the companies claim improved podding from their product. Neither made any measurable difference. As far as disease in the canola from no fungicide, there was one small affected area out of all our fields of less than an acre, so roughly .1%. Fungicides would not have payed in canola this year. As for cereals, I had roughly 250 acres of wheat I did not apply fungicide on, roughly 25% of our acres. No difference in yield, bushel weight, protein or grading. Too dry here for fungicides or foliar’s to pay this year.
                          Was the same here the past 3 years
                          Fungicide on wheat this year I think was a waste of money as well for the most part

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                            #28
                            Here on July 1st all crops were fantastic, 250 mm of rain so fungicides were applied, then the furnace got turned on and I would have been smarter to have taken all the money drove to the nearest casino and bet it all on red.
                            Except for the irrigation where it worked very well until Aug 05 and every single pivot got pretty much wiped out by hail. Again would have been smarter to take all that money and gone into my ag direct account and put it all on additional hail coverage.
                            Sometimes it's just a do your best practices and see.

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                              #29
                              Originally posted by mcfarms View Post
                              Here on July 1st all crops were fantastic, 250 mm of rain so fungicides were applied, then the furnace got turned on and I would have been smarter to have taken all the money drove to the nearest casino and bet it all on red.
                              Except for the irrigation where it worked very well until Aug 05 and every single pivot got pretty much wiped out by hail. Again would have been smarter to take all that money and gone into my ag direct account and put it all on additional hail coverage.
                              Sometimes it's just a do your best practices and see.
                              Interesting comment. You did what was good practice. And should have been planning for a failure that would have paid better.

                              Not criticizing , I would have chased a better crop based at that time as you described.

                              But since I have been there and done that. I just let it finish on its own only to be hailed mid September . All the extras wouldn't have changed the outcome.

                              Its crazy , Labour Day weekend there was no indicator that canola would drop a buck a bushel from Friday until Tuesday morning, its like predicting the hail storm on the exact quarter.

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                                #30
                                [QUOTE=bucket;n804662

                                Its crazy , Labour Day weekend there was no indicator that canola would drop a buck a bushel from Friday until Tuesday morning, its like predicting the hail storm on the exact quarter.[/QUOTE]

                                Record exports in August with China the largest buyer.

                                Indications September will be higher?

                                There is no embargo in place at this time. Obviously.

                                China never misses a chance.



                                Chuck_Penner
                                Cdn canola exports in August were a record 978,000 tonnes. 737k went to China, but decent volumes also to UAE, Mexico and Japan.
                                2:29 PM · Oct 8, 2024
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                                Last edited by shtferbrains; Oct 14, 2024, 13:05.

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