Input and crop prices

[goalieguy847]

Isnt croplan just 50 lb bags and u gotta pay extra for treatment?
Im at 710/ bag ill pay with buteo on my 902 dekalb.

Im basically same price as last yr.
New 401 was a stupid price tho and gen 1 clubroot! Hahha

[Hamloc]

Isnt croplan just 50 lb bags and u gotta pay extra for treatment?
Im at 710/ bag ill pay with buteo on my 902 dekalb.

Im basically same price as last yr.
New 401 was a stupid price tho and gen 1 clubroot! Hahha

Interesting. Croplan is $665 a bag with Fortenza Advanced. Any quotes I had on Dekalb was with Buteo and Fortenza(not Fortenza advanced)was around $780 a bag. Any retailer I talked to said both Dekalb and BASF were up 5-8%. One neighbour bought L345 with Buteo(no cutworm control)payed $786 a bag. My retailer same product was $800 a bag. I believe the Fortenza added about $50 a bag on top of Buteo. I think Pioneer 511 with Lumiderm is around $715.

[goalieguy847]

Right. But croplan was a dog around here... and 50 lb bags.
pioneer didnt fair to well either. Pioneer always seems to hrow these elephant eared plants but always chewier and same yield as anyone else... from what weve grown anyways.
did u do croplan last yr? How was it?

[Hamloc]

Right. But croplan was a dog around here... and 50 lb bags.
pioneer didnt fair to well either. Pioneer always seems to hrow these elephant eared plants but always chewier and same yield as anyone else... from what weve grown anyways.
did u do croplan last yr? How was it?

I have grown some Croplan 2 years in a row. First year was the LL variety. We did weighed strip trials of 7.5 acres each against 2 Pioneer varieties and 2 Invigor varieties, Croplan came out on top, 516 Pioneer in second, there was only 3 bushels difference between top and bottom. This year I grew RR varieties for the first time in about 10 years. Croplan and Pioneer were the best with Brevant 4015 back a bit. I agree Pioneer can be a big chewy plant, that was what was interesting about the Croplan certainly a smaller plant but the pods aren’t 3 feet off the ground. Just my observations. As far as yield capability my personal opinion is there is very little difference between all the top hybrids.

[goalieguy847]

Big time. Seems like the only constant we have had in our area ( north of edmonton) is that the earliest varieties seem to do the best ( the last 3 yrs with these hot hot julys)
strange bedfellows though as one would assume the flowering period is shorter with an earlier variety so you would assume that there would be less overall flowers and more damage with a hot period.

trial results = 3 bushel difference.
so you take those numbers and toss em out right? Is that more/ less than 5% difference?

[blackpowder]

What we might do here is seed the canola before the wheat for a change. We always skipped frosts and beetles. But wheat grading has changed and we're straight cutting canola now. Waited a month after wheat in bin this year to even start canola.

[Hamloc]

Big time. Seems like the only constant we have had in our area ( north of edmonton) is that the earliest varieties seem to do the best ( the last 3 yrs with these hot hot julys)
strange bedfellows though as one would assume the flowering period is shorter with an earlier variety so you would assume that there would be less overall flowers and more damage with a hot period.

trial results = 3 bushel difference.
so you take those numbers and toss em out right? Is that more/ less than 5% difference?

Yes it would be just over 5% as the top yield was just over 58 bushels per acre.
I do agree the trick is to be fortunate enough for the plant to flower at the right time, tough to predict when the heat will hit. In 23 it was June, in 24 it was early July.

[Hamloc]

What we might do here is seed the canola before the wheat for a change. We always skipped frosts and beetles. But wheat grading has changed and we're straight cutting canola now. Waited a month after wheat in bin this year to even start canola.

Yes I have a neighbour who did that for years. Oddly enough in 23 he bought a swather and now swaths his canola. I used to straight cut until I had a bin heat, now I swath it’s all. Each to his own.

[blackpowder]

A better product and more of it. But 1.5 - 3 times the time risk both in readiness and acres per combine. Desiccation a cat in a sack. Always learning.

[blackpowder]

Yes I have a neighbour who did that for years. Oddly enough in 23 he bought a swather and now swaths his canola. I used to straight cut until I had a bin heat, now I swath it’s all. Each to his own.

Betting your neighbor turned 60.

[Hamloc]

Betting your neighbor turned 60.

lol that is funny. Actually much younger than me in his late 40’s and he was straight cutting canola for maybe 15 years.