Friday Cocktail and end of week discussion 2025

[shtferbrains]

Haven't heard that story for many yrs.

Was common in the 70's and early 80's.

So common Les Henry did some research and tests on it.

That's probably why guys like SF3 are buying rippers now?

After 50 yrs of high NH3 rates their soil is hard and sterile.
Can't hardly get a crop anymore?

The main thing Les found was the story was promoted by people selling much higher priced, less effective products.
Often referred to Miracle in a bottle?
But also widely used in the US by liquid fertilizer distributors.
NH3 was sold FOB dealer yard there and was much cheaper than liquid.

[Old Cowzilla]

Its just grain guys trying to replace cow poo will try anything , anything to get away from fixing fences and chasing cows on sunday morning when you should be at the lake! Is liquid n any safer to use on soils compared to bulk or gas ?

[SASKFARMER]

My yields keep increasing since the 80s and anhydrous is part of our system since 1984 direct seeding, it works great.

We do a few other things but add moisture and compaction at driveways. Its all over western Canada every field shows it where guys fill

[Rareearth]

Ah ha moment,
that’s why they are making 700 hp tractors ?

[helmach]

No liquid n is not any better and yes anhydrous will sterilize soil of benifical bacteria/fungi. Take a strong wiff and report back to me on what it does to a 200 pound man. Now amplify that effect 100x fold to microganisms at a cellular level.

I'll ask you why do you personaly think cows are beneficial to soils? You will find our answers will be almost exactly the same! but the diffrence is we will use two different methods or vessels to achieve the same end result. Yours cow poop, mine compost extract.

Once you get out of the circle of buying a jug from Bayer to fix a problem yara sold you to maintain your yeilds, you will realize the con. Being convinced to pay to destroy the thing mother nature has created to sustain life and convert inorganics ions to organic ions. Soils are sterilized of the strains needed to complete Rhizophagy and to decompose organic matter ect to the point you need your synthetic n to grow weak struggling plants with little nutrition value. We are paying for our own problems. This also includes rrup and fungicides.

[helmach]

I have a peer who I consider to think outside the box like myself. He strip tills his flax and was faced with the problem of the standing flax straw like all flax growers are. He noticed when he bed some straw down to his pigs they were able to completely decompose and breakdown the straw in there manuer. So he took a handful of manuer to make compost extract and isolate out the bacteria and fungi decomposer strains that were in there gut to put in solution. He then sprayed his standing flax straw with the compost extract he made and walks in with his drill in the spring with zero issues direct seeding.

[farmaholic]

helmach or TASFarms,

Were you guys aware of Custom Agricultural Intelligence with two locations, one at Regina and the other Sedley Sask?

[TASFarms]

No I wasn’t aware until you posted. I looked up their web site. Just looks like another fertilizer company with a few bugs in a jug. Can’t really make much out off their site they don’t list much for products. Plant sap analyses is a level above tissue tests. Tissue tests can show good but may not be good. They don’t mention anything about sap tests.