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    [url]https://t.co/D8T58g6jKA[/url] Saskatchewan Premier Scott Moe pushes to de-escalate brewing trade war with Trump


    "Canadians lose in that broader tariff war, that market access war, and I would say North Americans also lose.”
    Author of the article:
    Alec Salloum ([url]https://leaderpost.com/author/alecsalloum/[/url])
    Published Jan 22, 2025 • Last updated 13 minutes ago • 3 minute read



    We are an interdependent economy! Poking the bear is not a great strategy. And one which citizens pay in the end for.

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      Originally posted by WiltonRanch View Post

      Keystone xl is meant to get Canadian oil to the Gulf of Mexico so it is in an export position or perhaps those coastal refineries buy some as they are tooled to heavy oil. Think what has happened the mid west refineries a good portion of Canadian oil is shipped to now has been tooled to take heavy oil. No real desire for keystone because of that. Far as Americans not needing our oil they don’t have an abundance of diesel or jet fuel fraction falling out of their oil. Makes great gasoline though. Our oil has low paraffins and makes great diesel and asphalt. Besides, western Canada select can be had at a fairly heavy discount to west Texas, and infrastructure is there to get to mid point USA at a competitive cost comparable to Texas.
      Trump stated that the US does not need Canadian oil and gas.

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        Originally posted by wheatking16 View Post

        Trump stated that the US does not need Canadian oil and gas.
        Any mention of fats or grain.

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          USA has 10X the Canadian population, then it is somehow Canada's fault the U.S. market demands what Canada produces! How childish is it for Trump to ramble on about a Canada/U.S. trade deficit! Canada doesn't have the population to create the demand to balance trade between the two nations. Grow up.

          Nothing but a bully. Can you reason or negotiate with a bully?

          Trump "co-author" of the book "The Art of The Deal".... I never read it!

          I lack the diplomacy to be in politics, besides my conscience wouldn't let me.

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            Where are all the workers ( surly not there employed) come from?
            automation
            unemployed
            usa birth rate - takes 20 years
            immigration, careful what you wish for

            to me it’s very clear, the usa will have, and be the worlds highest inflation.

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              The main reason Trump wants to put the 25% tariff on Canada is, he thinks the trade deficit the US has with Canada amounts to the US subsidizing Canada.

              Trump throws out the amount of the subsidy (US trade deficit) as $200 billion when in reality the trade deficit only favoured Canada by $40 billion in 2023.

              How can any body negotiate with Trump when he pulls numbers out of his ass.

              I turly feel sorry for you cattle guys when Donald puts the 25% tarrif on, as 75% of Canadian beef is shipped to the US.
              Last edited by foragefarmer; Jan 24, 2025, 08:23.

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                What a S##t show !
                Its sad really that there is such potential for Trump to right some wrongs and turn the ship around from bad policy. Hopefully he will tone it down a little and everyone reach a consensus. Its true that we as Canadian need to show more independence with better border controls. How Trudeau could phrase Roxham Road as a "irregular" border crossing is lunacy and complete with the RCMP there ready to carry the luggage of illegal migrants walking across the border. We caused that, we need to fix it. We know that we have needed to upgrade the military for years, we need to fix it.
                If these tariffs start from the US on Feb 1, then we have to stand up for ourselves even its gonna hurt in meantime or we will never stand on our own again.
                Its been said again and again how most of what goes US side is raw and goes though US labor for processing, while what Canada buys from the US is mostly goods processed with US labor.
                I believe that until we have a change in gov't in Ottawa that things are going to stay bad cause they are seen by Trump as weak and a pushover.

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                  Canada has been in a deepening recession for nearly two (2) years. The U.S. has been in recession for nearly a year.

                  Don’t buy into official gov’t economic data we’re fed. The sugarcoating days are over . . . .

                  Trump is about to give us a margin call that Canada can’t cover.

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                      Originally posted by wheatking16 View Post

                      Trump stated that the US does not need Canadian oil and gas.
                      I call bullshit too. Far cheaper to buy our landlocked oil than open up equivalent production in the USA. Even expansion in Alaska makes little sense versus buying Canadian oil. If tariffs are necessary to push American producers to increase production when oil is an internationally traded commodity with a defined price. Though this is the best kick in the ass for Canada to grow up and start taking care of itself.

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                        Originally posted by Rareearth View Post
                        Where are all the workers ( surly not there employed) come from?
                        automation
                        unemployed
                        usa birth rate - takes 20 years
                        immigration, careful what you wish for

                        to me it’s very clear, the usa will have, and be the worlds highest inflation.
                        There are projections that 30% of all jobs will be lost to AI within 3 years. I believe it has already begun. I can see it. We use AI for legal, medical, etc.

                        This is likely considered for tightening immigration.

                        Available labour won't be an issue.

                        Last edited by wheatking16; Jan 24, 2025, 11:39.

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                          Originally posted by WiltonRanch View Post

                          I call bullshit too. Far cheaper to buy our landlocked oil than open up equivalent production in the USA. Even expansion in Alaska makes little sense versus buying Canadian oil. If tariffs are necessary to push American producers to increase production when oil is an internationally traded commodity with a defined price. Though this is the best kick in the ass for Canada to grow up and start taking care of itself.
                          I see some saying this will make it much easier to rework and frac idle and older production?

                          That will be the biggest increase short term?

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                            Originally posted by wheatking16 View Post

                            There are projections that 30% of all jobs will be lost to AI within 3 years. I believe it has already begun. I can see it. We use AI for legal, medical, etc.

                            This is likely considered for tightening immigration.

                            Available labour won't be an issue.
                            We are still facing a labour shortfall in alot of sectors.

                            Tens of thousands of unfilled health jobs. We can use as much AI as practical with no negative effects for several years.

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                              If AI can take care of the mountain of paper that seems to be required in healthcare it will free up a lot of hours?
                              Lot more going on there than we know.
                              China and USA competing for dominance.
                              First to get it all together uses it to gain control.
                              It's going to use multiples of our current power supply growth curve.
                              Musk just started one computer that uses equivalent to 200,000 households with plans for 10x expansion.
                              Like the industrial revolution cheap reliable energy is king.

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                                Re donnie.
                                Left in fear and panic Right bit of huff and puff and bravado.

                                Real world for farmers not much will change just the pendulum of politics policy world wide has swung back to centre rather than left nothing more nothing less.

                                Dare I say it just a bit of commons sense. PS you can see im not a bedwetter. Trump will do dumb things say dumb things trump will do good things hope more of the latter than former.

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