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    a necessary evil

    To be honest about it, on the surface it does "look" hypocritical to on one hand, laud the sanctity and utopia of a free market, abolish the wheat board etc but then on the other hand welcome this announcement of government cash into the pockets of grain producers. If it gets there!

    But one could argue that every where you look at the political process there is bald faced hypocrisy. For example Dion, who is from QUEBEC praising and defending the perceived attributes of the WESTERN Canadian Wheat Board that has controlled or influenced the grain industry in “Western Canada” for decades, where, on their (Liberals and CWB) watch there has been, in Saskatchewan a serious and worrisome lack of generational turn over of farms, resulting in the average age being well over 60, as well as flat or falling land prices province wide. How is a man to retire?? What protection has the CWB been for us?

    Mean while in Quebec…Mr. Dion’s province, the average age is some where in the low forties, as well as strong and rising land prices. Confidence in the future, and profitability, the driving force! Why? Which region seems to have been better served??

    I don’t see a conflict between the desire for a free market and yet at the same time welcome new federal monies…and for this reason. Not since the time of kings has their ever been a free and open grain market. Grain…or “wheat” has, since “the time of Kings,” been used as a political tool to further the agenda of the state.

    Until other “states” stop all subsidies to grain producers…which is a pipe dream I think…we will have to accept the fact, that to survive, and to see a healthy western farm economy, subsidies are a necessary evil. A vibrant western Canadian grain industry can be achieved the same way it has seen Quebecs ag industry thrive. Not with a single desk seller and pooling system where every one gets the same low price but rather through direct and generous subsidies directed to the farm gate of every producer.

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    The Quebec government supports agriculture all the way. In Alberta the government supports AGRIBUSINESS...dats dem that profits from duh farmer by robbing dem blind. Check-out who owns the packing plants...some initial government subsidy for Cargill...one of America's richest corporations. Financial and other assistance for Tawainese hog raising factory farms.

    Financial and moral support for the anti-CWBers for the last thirty years at least.

    The little guy, he don't matter...he doesn't have de clout (and perhaps the political donations).

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      #3
      yes quebec supports farmers with his asra program.now asra have a debt of more 200.million.the price of insurance goes up,the good years are behind us.

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        #4
        wilagro

        Just curious as to what you would have the Alberta government do different. I note the Alberta government has been the most innovative in the three provinces in things like crop insurance add ons that include a price alternatives that include price (VPB, SPE, RI).

        The new world is such that farmers can no longer rely on the commodity based export market. The new markets either have to be the higher valued ones in the world market or adding value here at home. I assume you will agree with this.

        The packers are easy targets. I also can't argue that they made good profits during BSE. I've heard from at least a couple of sources that they could have done a lot better (didn't push as hard as they could have given the situation of twice as much beef as market). Not to defend the two big but I have heard the question as to what western Canada would have done if they were not around. With the BSE situation somewhat resolved (still over 30 month and additional exorts and markets to open up), what has happened to the all the new slaugher plants that were being talked about.

        The challenge for everyone is too talk about policy alternatives that move western Canadian agriculture ahead. Not a re-hashing of policy that got us here today.

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          #5
          The packers wouldn`t even BE here in Willie`s world......we`d just chase the critters to the US to be processed.Just like we export most of our wheat,durum and barley unprocessed.And, if the facilities where nationalised we`d see even less building going on.There has to be some form of incentive for development.

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            #6
            Don't worry Dolin, Alberta will send some more money soon and clear that up for you.

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              #7
              i dont need your money.i think it is not a good thing get money from alberta. quebec spent that money at the place wrong .

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                #8
                Dolin we need more people in this country like you...that is for sure.

                Sounds like you would make a good neighbor.

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