Talking about trade.....

[littledoggie]

Peter McCaffrey writes: One of the key reasons so many Canadian industries are so reliant on exports to the US, is because Ottawa makes it ridiculously difficult to trade with other countries and even between provinces here in Canada.

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[agstar77]

Peter McCaffrey writes: One of the key reasons so many Canadian industries are so reliant on exports to the US, is because Ottawa makes it ridiculously difficult to trade with other countries and even between provinces here in Canada.

Two Wrongs Don't Make A Right

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So it has nothing to do with U.S. size or proximity.

[littledoggie]

So you support trade with the US.

[farmaholic]

If this is supposed to be a knife in the heart of Canadain democratic process it's not needed. It's already dysfunctional and broken. Or if it's US's attempt to help Canadians change government, we honestly don't need their help. Change is on the way, in fact, they might actually prolong the agony by creating an environment in which the Liberals use the Emergency Measures Act to delay elections.

Foreign interference using economic warfare. Is it a trade issue or a control issue? Either way it's undiplomatic.

As usual, it's the common citizens who become collateral damage and suffer in warfare.
I just never thought Canada would feel the wrath of one of it's closest allies and trading partners. What would have been wrong with negotiated terms if either country wasn't happy with the status quo? It's really unfortunate it's come to this, I can only speculate if things would improve(or have not degenerated to this level) if the Canadian and American parties in power were more politically aligned.

At any rate, it shows the disrespect and lack of consideration they have for us by unilaterally taking action without giving us a chance to fairly negotiate and come up with a solution that suits both countries.

WOW...

[shtferbrains]

"First, let's take a step back and remind ourselves why trade is a good idea to begin with, because so many of our political leaders seem to have forgotten.

In short, trade is good for both sides, because it allows both sides to focus on producing things that they have a special advantage in, and then they can trade for things that they don't have a special advantage in."


Large part of our problems in Canada since Trudeau is he never understood this basic concept.
Or it wasn't in his WEF playbook?
Carney is going to give us a new Net Zero Green economy.

Not what we do best.
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[sumdumguy]

Farmaholic, do you actually think Trump could negotiate with Trudeau? I doubt it very much. Without force Trudeau would just laugh in his face. He is a childish punk. I have met people like that, they are so arrogant and entitled that they are impossible to deal with and yes we will be collateral damage.

[farmaholic]

Farmaholic, do you actually think Trump could negotiate with Trudeau? I doubt it very much. Without force Trudeau would just laugh in his face. He is a childish punk. I have met people like that, they are so arrogant and entitled that they are impossible to deal with and yes we will be collateral damage.

No, I don't.

My personal opinion....

They're both the same kind of person except on polar opposite extremes of the political spectrum!

Narcissistic
Egotistical
Delusional
Uncouth
Golden Spooned

So it's hard to "side" with one of the same persons, the best you can hope for is whose political beliefs best aligns with yours. Unfortunately, extremes in either camp ARE NO GOOD!

What could possibly go wrong?

[AlbertaFarmer5]

If this is supposed to be a knife in the heart of Canadain democratic process it's not needed. It's already dysfunctional and broken. Or if it's US's attempt to help Canadians change government, we honestly don't need their help. Change is on the way, in fact, they might actually prolong the agony by creating an environment in which the Liberals use the Emergency Measures Act to delay elections.

Foreign interference using economic warfare. Is it a trade issue or a control issue? Either way it's undiplomatic.

Considering how the US executes regime change in most other countries of the world, if they only apply economic warfare against us, we should consider ourselves Lucky.
Could be worse, look how they accomplished(or attempted) regime change in Syria, Iraq, Venezuala, Ukraine, Georgia, Kosovo, Afghanistan, every central American country, etc.

[agstar77]

Considering how the US executes regime change in most other countries of the world, if they only apply economic warfare against us, we should consider ourselves Lucky.
Could be worse, look how they accomplished(or attempted) regime change in Syria, Iraq, Venezuala, Ukraine, Georgia, Kosovo, Afghanistan, every central American country, etc.

So we are lucky they don't invade us like they are treating Panama. How did that work out last time?

[Happytrails]

While Trump used border issues to justify tariffs I think the main reason we've got them is that he believes in them. We don't need to take them so personally. He is doing what he thinks is right for the US. Our concerns don't matter to him.

Reality is that American incomes are so much higher than ours they can pay the tariff and goods are still more affordable for them than us. If Trudeau was serious about doing something to support Canadians he should axe the carbon tax.

[farmaholic]

Apples to apples, everything taken into account, I would like to see a comparison of what percentage of each country's population falls into the high, medium and low income bracket. I don't think it would be fair to use the same dollar range in the brackets either.

It's probably pretty easy to skew the comparison one way or the other. Salaries and goods/services might be higher in Canada than possibly lower salaries and cheaper goods/services in the US. Does that make us par, for the "average" citizen?

[littledoggie]

If Trudeau was serious about doing something to support Canadians he should axe the carbon tax.

How much has the carbon tax cost us over the years? What did we get for it? I don't know what those cumulative numbers would be, but if they were juxtaposed with 25% tariff? What would that look like?