Canaries in the elevator shaft.

[littledoggie]

When was the last time data was collected on ANYTHING in this country? No data? No problem!

[TASFarms]

BC has been carbon taxing all grain that goes to port since 2008. Must be 1/2 the cost now?
A study would be a waste of more money. Carbon taxing is designed to crater everything. The only ones carbon taxing works for are the ones getting the kick backs. Canada needs Doge style cleaning.


local Rm has 1/2 the rate payers unpaid on last years taxes.

[AlbertaFarmer5]

BC has been carbon taxing all grain that goes to port since 2008. Must be 1/2 the cost now?
A study would be a waste of more money. Carbon taxing is designed to crater everything. The only ones carbon taxing works for are the ones getting the kick backs. Canada needs Doge style cleaning.


local Rm has 1/2 the rate payers unpaid on last years taxes.

Are those oil and gas facilities, or farmers/residences?

[LEP]

local Rm has 1/2 the rate payers unpaid on last years taxes.[/QUOTE]


That's news to me. Haven't heard that one.

[bucket]

seems to me that the system isn't overbuilt , its more like farmers accepted the storage costs . Bin yards galore only a few miles from a railway . The storage and corresponding trucks on the highway made the elevators supposedly more efficient but at what cost to farmers and the province in infrastructure costs???

[blackpowder]

Geography determines storage.

[bucket]

Geography determines storage.

Not so in my part of the world. Viterra closed a 10000 tonne concrete at Eyebrow. Now the closest points are Viterra at Strongfield ( formerly GDT ) or the numerous elevators around Moose Jaw , or to the west .

In order to deliver to a Viterra in our area you were just expected to haul past Eyebrow parallel to a rail line all the way to Moose Jaw or if you hauled to Stongfield the cars came right back past Eyebrow. Its idiotic . With the Bunge deal , I would have thought the Eyebrow elevator would have had to been put up to another company as Viterra has exclusive grain on the rail line from Moose Jaw to Strongfield - no competition.

In any case there is a 10000 tonne elevator idled in the heart of where there could be a large project and is the closest point to the Riverhurst irrigation.

That project was built with a rail line at riverhurst , so much for increased production that would have justify proper use of the rail line. And not even a primary highway built since .

[blackpowder]

Respectfully, we've attempted this discussion before and I humbly request to disagree.
I acknowledge there are many farmers burning more fuel to deliver the crop than to grow it.
Geography.
Rail incentives and volumes within 250km.

I acknowledge your specific condition possibly affected by politics somewhere, for that I don't know and can't comment.
Companies like Viterra and others made a lot of mistakes during the transition. Even here, stuff built in the 90s is obsolete and would be abandoned if not for location.

[bucket]

Respectfully, we've attempted this discussion before and I humbly request to disagree.
I acknowledge there are many farmers burning more fuel to deliver the crop than to grow it.
Geography.
Rail incentives and volumes within 250km.

I acknowledge your specific condition possibly affected by politics somewhere, for that I don't know and can't comment.
Companies like Viterra and others made a lot of mistakes during the transition. Even here, stuff built in the 90s is obsolete and would be abandoned if not for location.

Cant argue your logic. It certainly has to do with location. But no concrete can be obsolete when you consider the 100 year old facilities still operating. FFS - P&H in Moose Jaw was built for horse and buggy and they won't make a better unload.

[blackpowder]

Understand.
UGG built a small concrete tombstone in the 90s here.
If not for Cargill buying it, and having their Camrose crush and fert terminal 3 miles away on the same short line, it would be shuttered.
SaskPool built in Killam at same time. Small, outdated. Pitiful basis.
Still there as Viterra. Serves a large area only reason it's still open.
Pioneer another concrete ladder track built same time (AWP) near Camrose.
Like Cargill, a big fert distribution shed.
Profit determines obsolescence I suppose. Competition, volumes, location.

I realize I am lucky to be able to operate a very small grain company without the need for much of my own storage or trucking because of my location.

Although sometimes I could envy the economy of scale you've attained by surviving your location.
Our dirt for 40 years has always been very expensive compared to productive capacity.
I have enough scale to provide a personal income for my time remaining. After that it's just another empty yard on the highway.