Guesses as to what % of eligible voters actually voted in barley vote?

[kamichel]

Like Cargill or JRI or SWP they don't neccessarily use the product , just transfer it from one person to another.

[kamichel]

To or through , what does it matter?

[poorboy]

Gregpet,

I agree that the question is worded simply enough and ottawa will get a clear message from it.

I guess in the back of my mind I am not sure that a cwb could exist in an open market setting, where is has to compete for product and try to get average prices for all producers. The hard part of the dual choice option is how to make it work. A simple choice to implement would be to leave it as is, or do like canola and just get out of the way. It was not so much the question that bothered me as much as how to make it work.

[cropduster]

PB......does it have to work??Do we have to live in the past?If our grandfathers saw us pecking away at these boxes ,wouldn`t they say `we are nuts`.Why have we adapted here but there is some biblical reason we have to maket some of our grain like it was 50 yrs ago??You are conditioned by the system to believe the glass is half empty!It is getting simply `pathetic` to watch/see Ritter whine that they can`t survive in a competitive market.(Kindersley, Wednesday)600% increase in uptake of marketing options is validation that producers are adaptable and their marketing organization is...stumbling...lost..can`t innovate..needs a grant...needs a lawyer...Even the fact that there is a vote is an admission that there should be a change.The idea of a vote NEVER came from Winnipeg ,it came from progressive growers!

[just_wondering]

cropduster
re: The idea of a vote NEVER came from Winnipeg ,it came from progressive growers!


The idea of a vote came from Ottawa despite the pleas of progressive growers, they felt that they had to satisfy Ralph Goodales section 47.1 which is B.S.
reply to original thread 44% turnout
question 1 35%
question 2 35%
question 3 30%
Strahl will announce August 1st 07 open market in Barley CWB still a player.
next day the sun will still rise in the east.

[kamichel]

I must agree with Cropduster. Poorboy it is not our job to make the CWB work in an open market, it is up to the CWB employees. I feel 100 percent they will lose the barley monopoly this year. I am not sure what kind of support should be allowed for the CWB from the government in an open market because they would then be competing with private businesses and much government support may not be a correct thing to do. It will need to lose its connections and supports from the government. Yet I find it hard to believe that an organization with supposedly expertise in trading 4 billion worth of grain per year does not have the ability to make a go of an open market. Perhaps a shakeup is in order.
Possibly a group of CWB staff will form a new trading company or few.

[gregpet]

Poorboy

I guess my only reply to how is the poor CWB going to do it? Let them them use all the expertise they have along with their $37.3 million ( that's $37,300,000,000) payroll and figure it out. Are they that helpless and dependent? Maybe they should listen to the John Depape interview on Newstalk Radio, I'm sure he would not charge that much to consult them.

[gregpet]

Whoops, I meant $33,300,000.

[rockpile]

Hi you all - the question is actually acedmic and irrelevant. Regardless of the vote, barley goes open market (ADM is in control, afterall). This won't hurt the CWB one bit - it would de-politicise the whole discussion. I've never really understood why a junk grain like barley, who anyone can grow, either feed or malt, was such a political and philosophical lightning rod. My predictions - 100% vote whatever they want, feed barley becomes a locked in continental product and prices tumble to the level of oats, feedlots will be happy, and any premiums that used to propel the malt lottery will vanish, since there is always an over abundance of malt acres seeded. Offshore exports of raw barley will disappear, since returns on risk and market developement are way too low and there is no business case that justifies investing in this product. (reminds me of rye). The E.U. will supply the world with barley, so don't worry about camels starving, and the Tom 4's will get together and re-invent the wheel by 'co-operating'.
Rockpile

[kamichel]

ADM is in controle?
This won't hurt the CWB?
Barley is a junk grain?
Feed barley will be locked in continental market only?
Malt premiums will vanish?

I don't agree with anything you have said.

What controle does ADM have here?
Why won't the CWB be hurt?
Barley and malt are very valuable grains to my farm in the past.
USA is exporting feed barley overseas.
There are currently 1 dollar per bushel premiums offered for malt outside the CWB right now in my area.