Canadian canola crushers have been screwing us hundreds of millions

[AlbertaFarmer5]

Good thing your farm can compete with the US treasury and you don't think that impacts the market indirectly.

Convince me that in the long term, subsidies do anything other than increase the amount that farmers can/have to pay to access the land to farm it.

[bucket]

Generations prior received government money. I didn't see that causing consolidation.

What causes consolidation is lack of support . When a son or daughter see what dad does to make a living and they try something else and find it more rewarding than the farm, that's when there is no one to take over. Machinery runs its life cycle and it is over.

Or guys that helped dad from age 15 to 45 and decide 30 years is enough and retire with the old man , who is at 75.

Every generation has received farm support relative to the crisis, because it's always crisis management with agriculture.

Steel and auto workers already have the commitment for aid.

I watched an area clear out in the 70s and 80s , it wasn't that these guys were bad farmers , the debt and lack of real support and its effects on families led to the consolidation. Every one was trying to save the farm , working off the farm , and a lack of family life led to breakups and sales. It wasn't because some farmers had money from support , it was a problem of generational timing and lack of support.

There will always be a failure or just a sale for reasons we don't understand - health, had enough etc. Good time to get out and try something different.

As I said above does that 45 - 50 year old want to take on debt if there is no one to take over or allow the 75 year old some retirement and have some himself?

[blackpowder]

Like the support keeping 60 cow dairies viable in the East.

[bucket]

Like the support keeping 60 cow dairies viable in the East.

Excellent example. Dairy has received more government money over the last 5 years than all of western Canada's farmers and ranchers. And that is including crops left out over winter , droughts , lack of feed etc etc.

I think they are just finishing up the payouts from the last trade deal where dairy lost 0.0000001% of their market share while dumping millions of litres of milk and people are lined up at food banks.

[littledoggie]

Dairy is also benefiting from high cattle prices. Win, win, win.

[blackpowder]

Buck
Sounds like you and I are from the same generation.

Commoditization demands consolidation. Read that twice.

Neither God nor the Constitution gives us the right to farm.
All things come to an end.

I'm grateful for the life I've had yet regret some of the sacrifices. Think I'd trade it all for a house full of laughter.

[bucket]

Buck
Sounds like you and I are from the same generation.

Commoditization demands consolidation. Read that twice.

Neither God nor the Constitution gives us the right to farm.
All things come to an end.

I'm grateful for the life I've had yet regret some of the sacrifices. Think I'd trade it all for a house full of laughter.

OK we don't have the right to farm. Then shouldn't the same logic be used for the auto , steel and aluminum and dairy industries. Why is it their right to have a job when those company rely on repetitive and consistent government handouts.

[blackpowder]

Votes?

[blackpowder]

Not to mention we consolidate labor requirements on our own.