Kill the Qutoa System - We Want American Milk

[TOM4CWB]

Sawfly,

I PM Harper goes by principal, the Conservatives WIll leave supply management alone. THis is the Conservative policy voted upon and approved in Montreal at the last policy convention. THE supply management system is an issue much like abortion,gay rights, or the CBC in Canada... don't expect it to change any time soon from a federal perspective.

Even in WTO, with sensitive products, Deviation, and top loading to protectDairy farmers... I bet a steak dinner with my mentor in economics... that this WTO round will not see Tarriffs on dairy below 200%...

Which means dairy will not significantly change... IMHO... any time soon... except by how the dairy farmers mess themselves up provincially.

American milk costs significantly more than CA milk at the retail level... and US milk producers receive almost half that of Canadian dairy producers.

THis proves tight supply chain management can produce significant efficiencies for both growers and consumers if an effective system disciplines a food chain!

Let the US keep their milk... I DON"T NEED or WANT it!

[parsley]

WRAPper,

When we get to have the celebration divorce-from-the-CWB party, I'll arrange for the nephew to take you for a ride in his bright yellow Prowler.I have a hunch u2 will get along nicely.

In the meantime, buy insurance.

Parsley

[grassfarmer]

" American milk costs significantly more than CA milk at the retail level... and US milk producers receive almost half that of Canadian dairy producers."

Bingo, Tom4cwb - a perfect example of how the producer gets screwed when dealing direct with huge multi-national processors. Don't you notice the parallel with the CWB issue? If you get your wish you will be the producer getting screwed just like the US dairy producer at the moment compared to his Canadian counterpart with a high and secure income level. Be careful what you wish for.

[wd9]

The only difference grassfarmer is we are being screwed twice now. Get rid of the CWB and our problem will only be half as bad.

The advantage and the difference with the dairy farms is their system actually benefits them.

[silverback]

I look forward to the day when you ask the gov't to set up a "Canadian Cattle Board" so that they can market your calves for you grassfarmer.

Is that what you want? You ready to let someone else tell you what your calves are worth to the rest of the world? You have to trust them because they won't show you the records of the sales!

Maybe just for western canadian calves would be ok too?

Or do you want a quota system set up for you and your neighbors?

Please keep us informed how that is going for you.

[TOM4CWB]

Grassfarmer,

WD9 has this one bang on... and for those in industry who are able to build a trusting relationship within the supply chain... it is possible to be as efficient only be more market responsive than the SM5 people are now.

This is for folks in the supply chain who are mature, know what they need, and have the discipline and resourses to deliver with integrety. Get quick artists need not apply.

If any one of these components that build trust and integrety are missing on either side of the processor/producer relationship... an inefficient supply chain will result.

Would you risk your life for those in your business relationships grassfarmer? Would they risk their lives for you?

[grassfarmer]

Siverback
"You ready to let someone else tell you what your calves are worth to the rest of the world? You have to trust them because they won't show you the records of the sales!"
Don't you realise we have that already with the packer monopoly?

[silverback]

You are truly forced to sell your calves to the packers?

If you started your own packing plant, would you still have to sell your calves to the gov't first and then buy them back at the gov't approved price?

Just a little difference.

[Fransisco]

Its a real tough concept for some.

Monopoly.

Mono meaning one. Not two, not five, one. It is singular, it is solitary, it is individual.

And what happens to those cattlemen who decide screw them all and cut and package their own beef selling it directly?

They get to set their price, keep their money, and their freedom.

[wilagro]

Let's get real. I can just see my neighbour who sells over 200 calves a year butchering and packaging his own beef and selling it door to door.

We live in an area where one corporation controls most of the auction marts for hundreds of miles around as well as major shares in a packing plant. How do you fight THAT monopoly? Each and every buyer in those auction marts is "handpicked" and no independent buyer is allowed with out prior approval. One buyer tried to "sit in" and was physically thrown out and threatened. How is that for orderly marketing and supply chain dependability and viability?

Tom keeps talking about supply chains, but each chain is only as good as its weakest link.