THE CWB AND ORGANIC GRAIN

[wedino]

Parsley, You state >>Organic Farmer Pierre, in Quebec, skips all these steps. Producer Pierre gets a no-cost export license from the CWB. The big feed mills get no-cost export licenses. The pedigreed seed grower gets no-cost export licenses. <<

What's to stop Organic Joe from shipping his grain to Quebec (as I understand most organic grain is cleaned, bagged & shipped via container) & completing the sale from there? (Other than chains & leg irons) Of course it would have to be headed in that direction or freight charges would eat away at any profits.

just a thought..........Cam

[parsley]

In interprovincial trade, the CWB requires an interprovincial-export license from producers. So if they move #1 Barley for pearling to Ontario...they need a license from the Board....Guess what Cam....
do they grant
or
deny?
Can you guess? I'll ask if that is your final answer.
Parsley

[TOM4CWB]

Cam,

The CWB makes the Quebec farmer sign a statutory declaration stating and swearing that the grain was produced in Quebec.

Then the no-cost export license is granted.

Same goes for B.C. outside the "designated area".

If a people are dishonest, many things can be done, the sad part in the CWB system is that dishonesty is rewarded, and telling the truth costs big time. THis is what started my battle with the CWB!

Don't you think it is time things changed?

[parsley]

Good Morning ,

Cam...I posted a report on the thread CWB Director Meetings...it's down quite a ways....but I thought you might be interested in the organic part of it.
It's second hand because i didn't attend.

Parsley

[wedino]

Parsley,
This is the best news. Halyk finally sees the light. I see 8 board members favoring no cost export permitts for organic grain. (Of course I'm counting on the appointees)

>>Rees asked if Halyk would personally support a recommendation that would urge the CWB to grant free export permits to organic producers. When Halyk responded that yes he would support that recommendation at the Board table, the audience of 125, composed of mostly conventional farmers and 4 organic farmers, burst into applause. The farmer-reporter was surprised because it indicated that conventional producers overwhelmingly supported the organic producers' request for no-cost export licenses.. <<

[parsley]

8? Let you count the ways.

Parsley

[Vader]

You realize of course that at present there are only 4 appointed CWB Directors on the Board. Jim Stanford retired from the CWB Board last month and has yet to be replaced. Do you still count 8?

[CWBRules]

<Tom, Ken Ridder, at the supper meeting in Weyburn, stated "Regular grain is switched for & sold as organic grain in the USA & thereby competes with grain the CWB is marketing into USA">

Wouldn't all those hippies in the city love to hear about that one.....cause the last thing we need are protesters trying to figure out how to chain themselves around a wheat plant in protest.

*I shudder at the thought*

[CWBRules]

Sorry all for the reduntant posts, for some reason my post above did not accept a wedino quote. I'll try posting the quote here:

<<Tom, Ken Ridder, at the supper meeting in Weyburn, stated "Regular grain is switched for & sold as organic grain in the USA & thereby competes with grain the CWB is marketing into USA">>

CWBRules

[CWBRules]

Again, accept my appologies, but I think I figured it out. What's that saying again, oh ya, "3 strikes and you're out"

>>Tom, Ken Ridder, at the supper meeting in Weyburn, stated "Regular grain is switched for & sold as organic grain in the USA & thereby competes with grain the CWB is marketing into USA" <<

[TOM4CWB]

On the organic conventional wheat thing,

I think it makes about as much sense as saying I could burn gasoline in my 9650STS combine!

A person can do anything or stretch their imagination enough to say anything, if they really have nothing constructive to prove.

The CWB and CGC do not market or sell organic wheat.

Stop.

Period.

Just like Seed Wheat!!

CWRS Seed Wheat sold into the US comes back to compete 20-50 times as much in commercial competive production, yet the CWB still issues no cost export licenses for it.

Why?

[parsley]

Hear Ye Hear Ye .....New OrganicExpert


This is the latest out of Organic Country . And it's quite the story. I wrote it all down as good as it was told to me from another guy who'd talked to Mr.R. But reliable.


This brand new organic farmer Mr. R. phones up the CWB . They've got a brand new woman in there...an organic "specialist" and she's called the Organic Marketing Manager. By they way, the CWB doesn't market organic grain. Oh boy.

The CWB's buyback Department had "forgot" to tell Mr. R. on an earlier call that there was a $10.00/container deduction from his buyback costs for shipping overseas. Oops. Anyhow he got to arguing with her ...the new marketing Specialist...about the buybacks and asked her if there is a difference between organized crime and legalized crime.

She recommended that he talk to this certain organic farmer in Saskatchewan about how great the CWB is, because this particular farmer was in favor of pooling and could explain it better to poor old Mr. R. than she could. To sway him, so to speak. Mr. R. was hardly impressed.

But it was an interesting thing she did....to refer Mr.R. to get him enlightened. (Old Tom4CWB, who the hell would she refer you to? Or what would she ever recommend to straighten out Adam Smith?)

Anyhow, he also wanted to know from this new CWB "expert" why organic farmers making a sale, had to have their grain graded by the Canadian Grain Commision when his buyer didn't need it and it was going to cost old Mr. R. $25.00 extra. The buyer didn't want it either. The CWB "expert" said she hadn't known that the organic boys didn't use the CGC grading system. She'll sure be a money maker for those poor old organic boys, won't she?

Am waiting to report more from someone .....-who-should-know-something about organics, ......maybeit will be about that Saskatchewan farmer that "straightens out" guys like Mr. R. for the CWB .

Think he's on the CWB payroll?

More when I find out.

PS Why don't some of you old farmers out there tell the experts to read agri-ville to find out what organics is all about. there's been enough talk here, that's for sure.

Parsley