Barley Growers: Cargill and CWB are Welfare Bums

[TOM4CWB]

Chaffmeister,

If CWB managers make a contract... they must fulfill the contract.

I agree it was not Prairie Malts "Fault" a contract was entered into that the CWB had no reasonable ability to fulfill.

Prairie, You, or I would have all known this was most likely going to be a vindictive bad deal for barley growers.

If it turned out to not be so... fine... let it be.

As was expected however... the CWB directors are baiting their agents...

This scheme is bad news for everyone in our industry!

Growers hate the trade even more;

The Multi-nationals claim injury... but knew this was going to happen with 95% certainty.

The CWB claims the Conservatives are responsible... the Devil that made the CWB do it!

You can't tell me as these barley contracts were drawn up, that any reasonable sane person... would not have been talking about these very issues with the CWB Sales DEPT.

[parsley]

1. So far the contract has not been broken.

2. In other instances, has not the contract been carried over into the next year?

3. If Cargill has a legal contract with the Board, then what the hell is it doing in Ottawa all week? They should be in Winnipeg.

Therefore, believing what you are seeing and watching and hearing, is that the Board's significant other, named Cargill, kept in the backroom, loves single-desk dancing.

Parsley

[Fransisco]

<blockquote>Parsley said "Who made the decision to contract the barley with Cargill? Was it the Government. or was it the CWB or was it the Directors or was it the farmer?"</blockquote>

It certainly wasn't the farmer if it was this wouldn't be an issue. The other three are the ones on the hook here.

Other questions I have is what does the contract we are all talking about here actually say? We're guessing a bit and neither the media, the board or Cargill have given any of us much to go on. Will we see details or just get the usual 'mushroom' treatment?

[parsley]

Let's get technical then.

1.Not the farmers
2. Did Cargill sign on the dotted line with the Government of Canada, or with the Canadian Wheat Board?

Parsley

[BennyHin]

How many of you have seen the movie dumb and dumber? chaff/fran?

[Fransisco]

<blockquote>parsley- "2. Did Cargill sign on the dotted line with the Government of Canada, or with the Canadian Wheat Board?" </blockquote>

Let me answer that with another question. Isn't that the same thing? The CWB is a state trading enterprise, so when you sign with the CWB you sign with the government.

I am open to being corrected here, but this is my basic understanding. I mean that how the initial payments work, and there are all sorts of examples of the government ponying up the cash when the boys and girls at the board couldn't make the sales to back up the initials.

[parsley]

As far as I know, the CWB makes and signs all the handling agreemnets with the maltsters.

The Government does not sign the contract with the Maltster,

Would you agree?

Parsley

[parsley]

1. Cargill doesn't sign with farmer
2.Cargill doesn't sign with government
3. Cargill signs with CWB


Under the blankets.


Now, the next question is this:

Which prolapsed graymatter at the CWB signed the contract with Cargill?

Parsley

[nakodo]

My discusssions with one of the maltsters is they want to do the right thing, ie get good quality malt barley and are willing to work with producers to get it.

How much? lets do a contract farmer to maltster.....

[parsley]

real or mock?

[nakodo]

They tell me "lets do a minimum price" based on the PRO and lets agree on a seperate contract for a market based premium over feed prices.....

[Fransisco]

<blockquote>As far as I know, the CWB makes and signs all the handling agreemnets with the maltsters.

The Government does not sign the contract with the Maltster,

Would you agree?

Parsley </blockquote>

True enough, but does the CWB not sign on the governments behalf?

I am all for holding the CWB accountable, this is certainly their mess they should bear responsibility and full responsibility if that is possible. I'm just not so sure it's possible. The question is who is responsible for what and when and in what circumstances? How much of that is spelled out in the act and in the boards by-laws?

I don't know if this is a good analogy but what happens to an employee who racks up all sorts of bogus expenses on a company credit card? He either pays it back or is out on the street,but either way the company still has to pay off the credit card bill.

Now if it's the employee's own credit card and then he later bills the company for expenses its a different story. The company can say screw this, these aren't legitimate expenses you're on your own.