Wanted: More Cheap Barley

[parsley]

And just so we are clear....I am specifically referring to farmer held grain not offered to the CWB.

For those individual farmers who signed a malt contract, that is a legal matter between the two parties if there is a contract breech, and rightly so.

Parsley

[Burbert]

To hell with Canadian malty's and their beer, I like the Amerikin stuff anyway. Let them go broke, and we can sell our barley for cow food. Bet the price of feed barley stays high now for ever, cause , of us smart farmers and our contracts. We rule the roost now. Maybe the malty's will look South and buy grain from the US or East. Maybe the standards will come down and they will accept anything they can get! This is win,win, win, win, win for Western farmers, we are on a roll, lets trash the entire system, things can only get better. Anarchy brings prosperity, yeah let the good times roll. With a contract they have to pay, or you kin sue them, that would be fun, wouldn't it, let the Canadian justice system into our pockets, thats a good thing????? Bet there a lot of lawyers familiar with ag issues, waiting in the wings to get rich, off simple farmers.

[parsley]

Remember in '02-'03?? The CWB imported malting barley from Denmark!

Canadian farmers couldn't sell their barley unless they sold it for firesale prices to the CWB. And when they sold it for feed, the WB gives top dollar to Denmark farmers.

At least August 1, we'll be able to shop elsewhere for a better price.

In the meantime Burbert, call all your single desk friends and tell them to deliver that malt barley NOW! They are the guys that KNOW they'll still get Board dollars.

Do them a favor.

Parsley

[icelander]

I can't understand how the cwb and malters are afraid of farmers not delivering barley to them. If the prices are still so low that they can't get barley then the so called experts at the cwb should be fired.I signed a guaranteed mininum price contract and am wondering what is going to happen to it?

[chaffmeister]

Parsley - at the very least, get your facts right. The CWB had NOTHING to do with the imports from Denmark. The maltsters did it on their own. Kinda answers your question about how the maltsters would react if the crop was entirely frozen.

[just_wondering]

What is malt barley worth on the world market?
What is that price backed off to Saskatoon, Calgary, Winnipeg, My farm?

how much can I expect for my malt in Sept07 through to july08
What kind of prices are required to keep farmers and maltster's happy

I would sign a multi year contract for $4.25 FOB and still make a reasonable profit but I would need good delivery dates and attainable specs maybe thats too cheap/expensive but I would take that for the first while.
Lets just get it started.

[parsley]

It's the oddest mistake, interchanging the CWB with the CWB's partner, the maltsters. It must have been a Boardian slip.

Sorry for making the er, error.....but it brought to light a few questions.

I have to go through this one step at a time, chaff, and thanks for making sure we all get it right. I know you will.

I am going to presume that the maltsters had contracted in 02-03 the same as they did in 07-07.

So the MALTSTERS imported Danish barley in 02-03, because the Canadian farmers didn't deliver but the maltsters lobby to keep the monopoly in Ottawa in 07 because Canadian farmers didn't deliver.

We'd all agree that the CWB set the prices so low, that the farmers wouldn't deliver, right?

So, what kind of loss were the maltsters asking the Federal Government to pay out to them in 02-03? I can't seem to recall.

Did the maltsters sue a swack of farmers they had contracted with? I can't seem to recall. icelander is asking about his contract in this thread.

Did the CWB make any kind of payout to the lobbysters/Maltsters because some contracts were unfulfilled?

Is the fact that the maltsters are asking for cash from anyone with a chequebook, before there are even any losses VERIFIED, even a sound legal business practice? (I'm not referring to political oppotunism here)

The bottom line is this...the CWB and the maltsters want cheap like borscht barley from farmers, like they have always been handed, and it's time these rotten little brats moved out of home and support themselves.

Parsley

[Jay-mo]

How much more obvious can it get that the CWB monopoly has been ripping off farmers when their biggest customers start raising a big stink about having to pay what its actually worth.
The way it looks to me is that the CWB has been in the back pocket of the maltsters supplying them with cheap barley.
Heres a question, correct me if i'm wrong. I have been told that one bushel of malt barley will make over 300 bottles of beer. If the price of malt goes from $3/bushel to $4, $5, even $6/bushel how much does that really affect the cost of producing beer?

[jrkfarms]

It is true that one bushel of malt barley will make 333 bottles of beer. We know that breweries are more concerned about the price of aluminum for there beer cans than the price of malt barley. Hows that for value added.

[wd9]

Parsley, F flat traditionally is rarely used anymore, it actually is an E, but technically an F is an E sharp, and an E is an F flat, although if an opera were to be written, it probably would be in E flat, aka D sharp.

I see the CWB supporters seem to not be able to explain the value to me as a farmer thing. They must be seeding, ya that's it.