CWB sells wheat at $30 tonne discount

[highwayman]

Herbdoctor
Please explain to me how a 62% majority is undemocratic. How many farmers have come forward and said they did not understand the options on the ballot. Do you really beleive the government cares how each individual voted. The CWB has been asking these sames questions to farmers in their surveys for 10 years and have acheived the same results. Its not the questions that you and the CWB dont like its the answers. In your warped world democracy means enforcing your opinion on the majority even if it restricts the basic human rights of our society. Had there of been a plebiscite on slavery in the previous century with a 95% majority supporting it would that have made it the right thing to do for you. In an open market for wheat and barley you and I will be able to market our our production the way that we see fit that is best for both of us however different that may be. That is all the choice side has ever asked.

[just_wondering]

herb doctor you want democracy you have it. No not the plebiscite that was a useless process that had to be gone through to satisfy the regulations that producers be consulted. It was said many times before the plebiscite was called that whomever loses will try to disqualify the results for any number of reasons check your back issues of the producer if you like or maybe someone has the threads from this site archived.
No the democracy I am talking about was the general election in which the Conservatives got elected. It was an election Plank in which people either said right on and agreed or held their noses and still voted Conservative. They did virtually sweep the designated area. Or do you want to start telling our politicians that election promises don't matter.
You could bring up equalization, income trusts or other broken/half kept/ill conceived promises but you will get your vote when the writ is dropped. the plebicite/CWB elections are a farce how do you get 80,000 farmers who should not have any say on how I market MY grain.

[AdamSmith]

tell me what it will cost to deal directly with the overseas buyers
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same as it costs you today to deal with overseas buyers of Canola, Flax, Oats, Peas, Rye, etc. etc. etc.

My costs are zero, what is yours?

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and how producer cars are affected

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What is the percentage of grain sold via producer cars? I bet it's less than 1%, I bet it's less than .1%

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and how much spare time i need to market myself...

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No wonder you guys are in a panic, monitoring the market is a very important part of the time I dedicate to operating my business, to view the task of marketing as something you do in your spare time speaks volumes.

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and where i can get ahold of a sattelite so i can compete with Cargill

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Uhm, you don't.

[chaffmeister]

<i>...tell me what it will cost to deal directly with the overseas buyers...</i>

Why do you want to deal directly with an overseas buyer? Often it's cheaper to have someone who is positioned to do certain things, to do those things. Every grain company out there - some you've never heard of (some without facilities) would gladly compete for your export business. When you buy groceries, do you go to each food company to pick up each item or do you make use of the services of a grocery store?

<i>...and how producer cars are affected...</i>

The vast majority of producer cars being shipped are CWB grains - maybe all of them. I am told that this is to get around the cost of country elevation at the high throughputs - I'm sure there are a lot of other reasons but since we're talking about the high cost of the CWB system, let's stick with this.

It is a known fact that the non-CWB system has a much lower cost than the CWB system - competition keeps margins tight. The ONLY reason there is a financial incentive to loading producer cars is because of the high CWB elevations you're avoiding; you wouldn't even dream of loading a canola car if all that you saved was what the elevator company makes handling canola in the country.

<i>...and how much spare time i need to market myself...</i>

Only you can answer that one. (If you think you need to market in your "spare time" perhaps you're in the wrong business). Perhaps some of the self-marketing farmers reading this will share their own experience.

<i>...and where i can get ahold of a sattelite so i can compete with Cargill</i>

Why do you want to compete with Cargill? You'd be far better off with them competing for your business, along with all the others out there.

(I fault the CWB for this notion - the CWB thinks its a grain company and needs to compete with grain companies. When in reality, the CWB is a farm collective - they should be making sure grain handlers and end-users compete for the grain it has at its disposal. Something they have failed miserably at.)

[AdamSmith]

The topic is the CWB deliberatly selling farmers grain for $30/t discount, never mind that farmers cost have risen dramatically in the past year and this only add insult to injury with respect to this particular give away,

And the response from the cwb "friends" is .... drum role if you please.... HOW DO I GET A SATTELITE?

If ever there was an example of being disconnected from the real world, that is it!

I have to laugh, because I'm too old to cry!

[charliep]

Herbdoctor

I note your reference to Cargill. I also note Cargill (Prairie Malt) is asking for a one year extension to CWB barley single desk status. Your assumption is a major company like this is all knowledgeable and powerfull. If Cargill didn't benefit from single desk, why would they be asking for this extension?

Is Cargill a CWB friend or a foe?

[wd9]

With the CWB selling 1/12 of the crop per month, how much influence does that have on a sale like this to meet those targets?

PS, Malaysian palm report to be posted soon, just got back from the International Oilseed Producers Dialogue in Kuala Lumpur. Demand will continue to outstrip supply for at least the next 3 years so prices should remain strong on the veg oil complex. With BD and food demand synergy, it looks good. Must sleep first.

[SASKFARMER3]

WD40 cant wait to here about the malaysian palm oil and demand.

[Lifer]

"Put yourself in the boots of the CWB salesman and see how you would do things differently. They have to compete against other countries or didn't you know this?"

In response to the above statement and I do apologize for entering into this late.

Can the CWB not also compete on value? If the CWB brand has any value would not a premium be charged for it over other wheat commodities? Why would there be a discount?

And for the CWB salesmen, Who do they really compete with? How is their job performance measured? Tonnes sold? Actual value to producers?

[kamichel]

I am guessing the CWB forcefully has wheat along the St. Lawrence at a certain time that needed to be sold. Keeping lake shippers happy and well fed and anyone else along the way except producers.
I suppose they all have good Christmass parties.

[agstar77]

Typical B.S. by anti CWB type like AS, now revealed that CWB had no part in this so-called discount sale. Grande Moinho Cearense said it paid 200 U.S per tonne F.O.B