Appropriate Use of Agri-ville - Guidelines. Please be respectful. Thanks.

[AdamSmith]

Could someone explain to me how Benny accessed even the IP Addresses of the users? I'm no computer geek, so I have zero clue. Not that I am wanting to try and figure out who people are, but obviously Benny has interpreted something totally wrong, because I too know that chaffmeister, incognito, fransisco, and wedino are all totally different people living in totally different areas.

With respect to the inappropriate postings. I have had a theory for sometime that may help explain the venomous responses from cwb supporters.

Free market supportes see the market as just the market, it's the arena in which business is done and it is the rules that allow themselves as individuals to participate on an equal footing as all others. We also believe that it is entirely up to the individual to what degree they participate. So in kind we only see the cwb as a federally mandated intrusion into that arena with the sole intent of preventing individuals from participating as individuals.

Yet CWB supporters, only see an us vs them situation. The us part is the collective which they are apart of, the them is anyone who isn't a part of the us. So when we attack the cwb they respond as if they have been personally attacked. The cwb supporter has little confidence as an individual and see evildoers who are out to get them everywhere they look and only feel safe within the security of the collective (the cwb).

This is why they respond the way they do. Why a simple question asking them to explain an inconcistency from the cwb results in a verbal tantrum or to get their comment on an observable fact about the poor perfomance of the cwb results in a personal attack.

Burbert, Wilagro, BennyHinn, Agstar77 and company prove this on an almost daily basis.

[AdamSmith]

Further to my theory,

Once you understand the fundamental differences between the two mindsets, and once you understand that one group is driven by optimism and opportunity and the other is driven by fear and greed.

You will quickly understand why this industry has been as dysfunctional as it has been, and why so long as the policy makers of this country develop and adopt policy which demand that oil and water must mix, it will always be dysfunctional.

So I say to those people who feel engaging in the cwb debate is beneth them or can be avoided, you are just as foolish as the single minded supporters of the cwb, because you have accepted the impossible proposition that oil and water CAN mix.

[cottonpicken]

Looks to me like there are a lot of pots calling a lot of kettles black around here.

[parsley]

btw,BennyHinn et al,

I have also spoken to and individually corresponded/spoken with fransisco, AdamSmiith and charliep. They are entirely different people from different areas, and not one of the forementioned.

They are real, and they are consistent, so don't try to accuse them either.

Point is AS, do you want the BennyHinns et al for business partners?
What kind of mess will they get you in with attitudes like this?

Parsley

[parsley]

Nothing to do with pots and pans, cotton, so stick to the facts.

1. Benny Hinn made this accusation:

"the IP addresses for: chaffmeister, wedino, fransico, incognito, and at least two others, this is all the same person"


2.I know for a fact these are not the same people.

I called BH on his BS.

Parsley

[AdamSmith]

Cotton, my point was, and I believe it is undeniable, that the casim between the two opposing mindsets is impossible to be breached, there is zero common ground here.

And as parsley said, I have come to the conclusion that my life and Agstars (for example) life would be much better if we we're not forced by the ludicris cwb act to be business partners.

By the way, if my theory is wrong, give me your explanation as to why simple inquiries into the inconsistencies of cwb claims are always met with childish haranques which never address the questions they just amount to the equivilent of "Oh Yeah, well your mother wears army boots"?

Whether it be about: PPO Basis levels, discounted sales to Brazil, premiums that can't be proven, canola basis vs cwb basis, paid for studies, liberal affiliations, seeded acres, barley sales done without the farmers offering the barley, discounted malting barley sales which they can't honour, ND wheat prices being a buck a bushel higher day in and day out, stress bonuses, the contingeny fund, 62% of farmers wanting choice for barley, lawsuits, court challenges, poor prices, artificially low prices for winter wheat and cps, open market feed barley being worth more than cwb malting barley, feed wheat being worth as much as high quality milling wheat, export permits for some but not others, wanting a plebicite and getting it but ignoring the results, you name it.

Never do they address the questions, our side address the questions with reason and proof, they just pull the trigger on the flamethrower, as fransisco so aptly said.

[parsley]

Please call me AS I want to buy those army boots.

Parsley

[cottonpicken]

EVERYONE is entitled to an opinion.

Crap has been thrown back and forth from both sides.

The big cry babies of this board are now argueing over who threw more.

GROW UP

[cottonpicken]

Adam,seeing how you think you know so much,please explain to me the answers to these questions.

Do more sellers command a higher market price or lower?

Do the members of opec belong to the organization to get a higher price of oil or lower?

The right answers to these question may prove that there is some flaw to your logic.

[Ron]

I think we should all stop and read our own words. Would you say this to someones face? No, I didnt think so.
We are all getting so worked up about the CWB stuff we are becoming jerks.
I am kind of glad the horrible spring stopped me from seeding and board grain as the CWB debate doesnt mean anything to me for this year.
I guess God helped me vote with my drill. (that was supposed to be a joke)