Is this something new or recycled money?

[TOM4CWB]

Wilagro,

You wrote,

"So Tom4CWB, you will welcome the money. Good for you. Did you ever think that you would be farming so as to receive what is essentially SOCIAL ASSISTANCE?"

Excuse me!

THis year our farm has spent $60g on crop insurance; well over $500g on putting the 07 crop in the ground; Machine payments of 100g; on and on it goes... money spent like water... and a few g$$$ returned back means we are living on Social Assistance?

I think NOT!

Burbert, If you have a better system that is fairer, please put it down here... so I can send it through and get it implemented! SERIOUSLY!

[wilagro]

Burbert: I am getting really tired of discussing/arguing with this cabal of "big" farmers who KNOW that the CWB has caused most of our economic distress because they "always" sell for less on the world market...Always sell malting barley to the malsters at the "lowest" price and steal from the pools to cover shortfalls and "cook" the books constantly.

How do these people know these things happen?...or are their suspicions justified? Don't they believe ANYthing that the CWB says they do for farmers?

It seems that they want the big bad bogeyman eliminated for good and individual marketing is superior to collective marketing.

[TOM4CWB]

Wilagro,

You said: "...individual marketing is superior to collective marketing."

Individual responsibility is always far better than any other system... for those willing to do the work and stand behind their decisions. THis is especially true in marketing relationships.

The CWB can easily create a progressive marketing system... not unlike the Organic Grain programs announced July 7th...

The CWB CAN easily and effectively facilitate the needs of individuals who have a track record of being responsible and standing behind decisions they initiated.

For other folks who are not ready of willing to be personally responsible... pooling is a reasonable alternative!

What exactly is evil and disrespectful about this kind of solution?

[jensend]

tom if you paid $60g for crop insurance then i think you must have gotten a subsidy well in excess of $100g if things haven't changed too much from my days in alberta. what portion of the premiums do the two senior levels of govt. pay now?

[TOM4CWB]

Jensend,

THis works out to about $12/ac with hail insurance, at about $150/ac with 60% coverage. Yes the Gov. puts in some funding...

Other than cash flow CAISP will eventually pay a simular amount out, with the cash flow being slower and, the CAISP margin decreases for future coverage without crop insurance.

No one on our farm expects to collect a cent on the crop insurance at 60% coverage. If a 2002 type of disaster hits again... we need to pay our bills, and this allows us to meet the obligations we have.

Everyone is paying into our crop insurance.. yes; as they are paying into the fire insurance on your house... and the insurance on the vehicles we drive.

Collecting Insurance makes no one rich, I hope we never need it again for another 120 years!

[jensend]

whatever you say!