New CWB Organic Programs

[GrainBeetle]

Parsley, if there was deerpoop in CWB barley or wheat shipments in the past, why blame the cwb? Why not blame the accredited exporters and or the line companies who originated this crap?

Even Zaphoid agrees, please see this thread:
https://www.agriville.com/cgi-bin/forums/viewThread.cgi?1184343598

What port terminal was responsible? Did you know the cwb doesn't own or control any port terminals? Also what is the CGC's or SGS' responsibilities?

Your allegation of the CWB shipping feces infected grains is quite damaging to Canadian grain standards and grain quality. What if several international grain buyers were to read this thread or have it brought to their attention and then later decided not to buy Canadian on the basis of your allegations?

Could you imagine if a story was published about a consumer in Saskatoon finding crickets and maggots in their dry lentil soup mix from an organic farm in SE SK? What if this unfounded, alleged story was published or sent to their customer's, the media and the CFIA? What would happen to this organic farmer's business and her reputation?

Thanks Parsley for supporting Canadian Agriculture --- not.

[TOM4CWB]

Grainbeetle,

I believe you missed the whole point of Parsley's post!

Organic grains do not need the CWB's brand, varieties, CGC grades, least of all terminal cleaning that adds back deer poop after charging for cleaning the barley to "commercial" standards not used by Organic Grain in any event.

Any system with the $$$millions upon $$$millions in investments in cleaning equipment... that doesn't (but easily could) remove deer poop... has a serious management problem!

Only In Canada for export ~!~

I have found SE Sask soup mixes to be of high quality and tasty!

I don't see the connection, as they are not a commodity... these lentils/beans etc. are easily cleaned at the local level and don't have any tookage added back!!!

[parsley]

If the CWB insist on a monopoly, they have to take responsibility.

Farmers sell their grain to the CWB and are paid by the CWB.

It is the responsibility of the CWB to hire/use players that report back to them.

Demurrage, for example. The CWB is totally responsible for the bill that accrues, and the deal that is made.


If I had another option to sell to, other than the CWB, I would agree with you, but the CWB will not allow any other option.

When u want to be the sole boss, you gotta take the heat!

Parsley

[Fransisco]

Speaking of demurrage. I recently heard that the board negotiates twice as big a window to load ships as the private trade. What they do essentially is pay a certain amount of demurrage up front through the price being offered for the grain.

Neat trick.

[Burbert]

Charliep, How many times do I have to point this out to you guys. The reason barley prices have climbed is because last year, a very,very, very, small amount of barley was grown/selected as malt. NOT BECAUSE OF CHANGING THE WAY WE MARKET BARLEY. Guess we'll now have to grow/market it the way the yanks do, cause apparently there is no other way. Canada can then go on picking lint out of its navel, since this is a MAJOR step forward in farming and maybe the whinnning and snivelling will stop now. Praised be Chuck and the ABBC are now in charge, yyyyyyyyyyyuuuuuuukkkkkkkkkkk!

[parsley]

And that is why the responsibility basically must get dumped on the CWB's doorstep.

Last week, I spoke to a guy who letter-whipped a supplier to the company he was mad at, instead of writing a letter directly to the company he was mad at.

Farmers need to recognize this kind of thinking and make sure this kind of thinking does not become management. It is what defeats us.

Parsley

[TOM4CWB]

Burbert,

HOW MANY TIMES MUST THIS BE POINTED OUT TTTTTTT0000000 YYYYYYYOOOOOOOUUUUUUU

You have intentionally ignored the obvious.

When the CWB sells into the millions of tonnes, at substandard prices, like the Malt Co's swear they did...

Why would any Malt co offer any more than what they can buy it from the CWB...? Obviously the CWB offered this grain at, at least $50 million under Fair Market Value.

Please explain to me how this is anything but proof you are wrong on the marketing of Barley?

Go to long term USDA charts... and see how US growers on average get more for their barley than Canadian growers!

I believe Charlie has posted these links up before.



And... since the CWB is willing to tell half truths and willing to distort real market signals on barley... what makes you so sure the same isn't happening with wheat... when there is strong evidence to show that as well?

There are none so Blind... as those who will not see!

[AdamSmith]

Burbert, explain to us why oct wpg wheat has only gone up $5.7/t since March 30, (roughly the date when the plebicite results were announced),

and oct wpg bly has gone up $28.7/t?

prior to that both tracked a very similar pattern based on the value of domestic feed grain only.

After the plebicite barley began to chart it's own path based on international demand.

If was what you say, feed wheat would have gone up a similar amount as both are feed grains that can be substituted for one another.

By the way we are talking new crop here and there is a big crop of barley out there and it's still going up.

[BennyHin]

Where did you hear that Franny? How does the CWB's dem/des rates compare to other commercial freight contracts?

[Burbert]

Adamsmith, The price has been going up/retreating etc., cause of the cornfusion that exists in the market at the moment. Nobody, but nobody knows, what is going on, with exception of the Angriville boys, who are great guessers at the best of times, and of course are soooo special, grain companies lovve them, since they are bound and determined to see everyone associated with the CWB, doing time, cause they are/were soooo croookeddd!!!