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    A$ to hit $.47? Are markets normal?

    Charlie,

    THis is certainly interesting!

    SYDNEY, Nov 25, 2008 (AsiaPulse via COMTEX) -- The Australian dollar will hit an all-time low of 47 US cents by the middle of next year, a major French bank says.

    Meanwhile, some economists are expecting official interest rates to fall to their lowest sustained levels in almost half a century as Australia grapples with the most turbulent economic period for many years.

    BNP Paribas says the domestic currency will plunge by the June quarter of 2009 from its present level of 65 US cents, as the economies of Australia's major trading partners soften.

    "The slowdown in the economies of Australia's main trading partners, particularly in Asia, implies that export demand will soften," the bank said in a global outlook report for December 2008.

    The Australian dollar fell to an all-time low of 47.78 US cents in April 2001 in the wake of the "tech wreck".

    A tumble to 47 US cents would represent a 52 per cent dive since mid-July when the Australian dollar reached a 25-year high of 98.49 US cents.

    The Australian dollar fell to a five and a half year low of 60.12 US cents in late October.

    BNP Paribas said that, while a weaker Australian dollar would push up import prices, domestic inflation was likely to be slow in the near term as crude oil prices plunged and the economy experienced "sub-potential" growth.

    Debt futures markets are expecting Australian official interest rates to fall to 2.75 by April 2009.

    The cash rate fell to 2.89 per cent in January 1960, according to snap shot data of official interest rates from the Reserve Bank of Australia (RBA).

    Official interest rates have not been below this level on a sustained basis, RBA records going back to 1959 show.

    AMP Capital Investors chief economist Shane Oliver says the cash rate will fall to three per cent by June 2009.

    "The RBA will want to get rates down rapidly, taking them to levels not seen since the 1960s," he said.

    If the cash rate falls under three per cent, repayments on an average $250,000 standard variable home loan would fall by 23 per cent to $1,380 a month, from $1,790, mortgage calculators show.

    Dr Oliver said Australia was likely to enter recession in the second half of next year as the world's biggest economies contract, and emerging economies like China slow rapidly.

    "The economic threat to Australian growth from the global slump is the biggest seen in the post-war era," he said.

    "We have a situation in the advanced world where all three major economies - Europe, Japan and the US - will be in recession next year."

    An economist with financial markets research group 4CAST, Mick Turner, predicted a 2.5 per cent cash rate by the middle of next year.

    "There's going to be a fairly prolonged period of balance sheet consolidation with households: you're going to get a situation, even though credit is cheaper, (in which) people won't use extra income to spend," he said.

    A "nasty" decline in Australia's terms of trade, the ratio of export to import prices, also will lead to dampened income growth, Mr Turner said.

    BNP Paribas expects Australian gross domestic product (GDP) growth to be flat in 2009, but says the economy is likely to avoid recession as the RBA cuts rates aggressively.

    "We expect GDP growth to slow to close to zero," the bank said.

    "However, with aggressive fiscal and monetary policy easing, Australia is likely to be spared from recession."

    AAP saj/pe

    http://news.tradingcharts.com/futures/3/4/117016543.html?mpop

    Reading an article on cattle... it was ended with this tidbit:

    "It's a gamble, that's what it is," Nelson said. "This is first year of my life that corn prices dropped, oil dropped and cattle followed them right down."

    Fundementals mean NOTHING... till the 'FEAR' is washed out of the market!

    ARE we really there?

    #2
    If I was a tad younger, I'd be sellin my gold,and buyin some young cows. Yes I would, Pars

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      #3
      Even though the 1st post was addressed to Charlie I'll put in my 2 cents worth.
      There was quote on the radio today something to the effect that :"We scoff at fortune tellers but listen to economists".
      When markets are going down they predict they are going lower. When something is going up , well, it's going higher isn't it. Anyone that puts a lot of stock in the predictions of economists is going to be misled more often than not.
      Now this predition of a .47 cent Oz dollar could be right but I doubt it.

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        #4
        The stupidest bunch of nonsence i've read in quite sometime.

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          #5
          I doubt that the Australian dollar is going to fall to those lows, nor the Canadian dollar for that matter.

          What is going to collapse is the U.S. dollar, given the fact that the U.S. federal reserve is printing money at a rate that pretty much exceeds all of the other central banks put together.

          Commodity based economies like Australia and (Western) Canada could do quite well as all these phony American dollars get fed into an inflationary fire.

          The present strength of the Greenback is temporary and more likely the result of deleveraging than anything else. By spring I suspect we'll see significant downward movement for the U.S. dollar.

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            #6
            Bluefargo... things addressed to the moderator are always pen to everyone!

            I think you folks forget about Japan and what the have done!

            Experience shows they (the US) have done EXACTLY what Japan did some 20 years ago... and Japan DID NOT fall into an inflationary hOLE.

            If oil were to go to $30/bbl... the $.47 A$ would be about right.

            SO... what makes you think oil has stopped dropping?

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              #7
              I have no idea where oil prices are going. But thats the point. I don't think anyone else does either. I was at a meeting this summer where a high powered bank economist predicted that by Christmas oil would be down to about $120 US/ barrel. Wrong again!

              I've got nothing against economists, market analysts or market gurus. But if you stick you neck out and make market predictions you will get your head cut off sooner than later.

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                #8
                "Experience shows they (the US) have done EXACTLY what Japan did some 20 years ago... and Japan DID NOT fall into an inflationary hOLE."

                I think that the reason Japan has not experienced much inflation has to do with the fact that the Japanese have a very high savings rate and were able to finance their deficits from internal savings.

                The United States, on the other hand, had a savings rate over the past five years of around one percent. This is totally inadequate to finance the kinds of deficits they are considering. They're going to simply print the money and spark off some serious inflation. This is going to take time, however, so don't expect to see the results until maybe the middle of next year.

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                  #9
                  pARSLEY:

                  "If I was a tad younger, I'd be sellin my gold,and buyin some young cows."

                  If you were a tad younger... it would now be long before BSE... and buying cows wouldn't have been a bad idea!

                  But you had cows back then anyway!

                  What are you really trying to tell us?

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                    #10
                    Here's a quote from Peter Schiff's website which explains the concept of deleveraging and how it is temporarily boosting the value of the U.S. dollar:

                    "[American] investors, who borrowed cheap and plentiful U.S. dollars to invest abroad, have been forced to sell foreign assets for local currency and buy dollars to repay their debts. Even major corporations are repatriating funds from abroad to meet the domestic dollar cash demands.....

                    However, when the deleveraging subsides the inflationary effects of massive U.S. Government stimuli take effect and show through as rampant inflation. The dollar is then likely to stall and even plummet."

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