Parliament II

[TOM4CWB]

Agstar77

I attended the rally at the Ledge in Edmonton today.

A very good point was made... and it was this:

It may be legal to smoke a carton of cigs... Drink a 40 of whiskey; tonight (in the appropriate place)... but it is not healthy... it does not edify our bodies... or do anyone any personal good!

THE Same goes for the coalition and what giving into this temptation would do for democracy in Canada.

It is not healthy for our democracy...

It does not edify your Canadian public voting body...

The coalition will not do anyone of us any good! Spending money we do not have... simply to spend... to comfort Big Unions/Multinationals... flexing their muscles;

This just simply breaks down trust in our Canadian parliamentary system!

[agstar77]

Not that I disagree but locking the doors of parliament to avoid a vote is certainly not democratic and we all Know it. Two wrongs don't make a right.

[parsley]

If you want to unravel an Act, it's good to know how it was originally put together, and I posted five 1946 Cabinet documents tonight on PN for those who like puzzles to solve, and paths to follow. Pars

[Fransisco]

The blame again goes to the separatist coalition. If it wasn't for their Kamikaze lunge for power there would have been no need for a time out.

[parsley]

You still around and about, fran?

[parsley]

What gets me wonder is how to go about healing fractures when citizenry like dmlfarmer scold AV'ers for calling the Coalition separatists, and think we're over the top, and yet ignore the likes of their own Coalitionists,like Scott Reid, in the Globe and Mail:

QUOTE
"Sunday, November 30, 2008
Kill him: Kill him dead? Scott Reid plans against PM..... WTF?
SCOTT REID

Globe and Mail Update

November 29, 2008 at 5:00 PM EST

First things first: take him out.

After all, Stephen Harper is the most dangerous animal lurking in the jungles of Parliament. He is a threat to the future viability of the Liberals. A blood simple opponent of the NDP and the only serious contemporary challenge to the Bloc Quebecois. Without him, his party is an unlikely combination of Reform Party leftovers, Harris refugees and Red Tory desperates. They don't matter or even exist without Mr. Harper. So before you think a moment longer, opposition leaders, think on that.

And if that's not compelling enough, remember: He doesn't play to win. He plays to conquer. Under his guidance, the public interest is always subjugated to his personal political advancement. And he poisons Parliament with an extreme, bare-fanged breed of partisanship that has no hope of repair until he is banished.

This becomes relevant because suddenly, he is weak. In fact, at this particular moment, he is almost unable to defend himself. Owing to a ridiculously ill-considered act of hubris, he has laid himself vulnerable to his opponents. Their imperative could not be more clear: kill him. Kill him dead. Do not, whatever you do, provide him with an opportunity to extend his hold on power. Because you can be damn certain he will never again be so reckless as to give you a chance to finish him off.

Fate tends to be grudging with gifts of this significance. To ignore it would be an error every bit as historic as the one Mr. Harper himself has made.

So don't get fancy. Don't get confused. And don't get weak in the knees. If you don't put Mr. Harper in his grave, he'll put you in yours.

The next question is how. Nothing should be taken for granted. The guy has bought himself a week. And he'll use it to his advantage. He'll spend money, time and every ounce of energy to make it difficult on the Opposition.

Already, he's abandoning the liability of his own electoral financing proposals. He'll further correct his mistakes by having Jim Flaherty tease out talk of stimulus. He'll attack the legitimacy of an unelected "Prime Minister Dion." He'll turn the Liberal caucus loose on itself. And he will have success in rallying public opinion to his side.

Here's why: Already, the debate has shifted from the illegitimacy of what Mr. Harper has done to the illegitimacy of what comes next."UNQUOTE


Not a word about articles like this being "extreme" from Coalition supporters, is there now? And our
"national" media printed this article. What partisan scum they are. What a disgrace the NP is to our society. And every coalition supporter's silence endorses these kind of actions.

Parsley

[stormnorm]

there is a good article from patrick lagace in la presse this morning,he was at the rally in edmonton and talk about what media report and what realy was going on.

[TOM4CWB]

Parsley,

I agree... the national press is looking to improve ratings..

NOT HELP CANADA WITH SOME COMMON SENSE.

THE WESTERN STANDARD.ca GOT IT RIGHT;

Friday, December 05, 2008
John Manley: Stephane Dion is delusional

Headlined on Bourque is the most forceful statement for Stephane Dion to step aside as leader of the Liberal Party, and for the coalition to break apart, yet. And it comes from former Liberal heavyweight and Deputy Prime Minister John Manley.

Money quote 1: "As a Liberal, I believe the first step for my party is to replace Stéphane Dion as leader with someone whose first job is to rebuild the Liberal Party, rather than leading a coalition with the NDP."

Money quote 2: "The notion that the public would accept Stephane Dion as prime minister, after having resoundingly rejected that possibility a few weeks earlier, was delusional at best."

http://westernstandard.blogs.com/shotgun/2008/12/john-manley-ste.html

nOW IF I WAN'T A CONSERVATIVE... I WOULD PUT MONEY DOWN TO HAVE MANLEY AS LIBERAL LEADER.

WE NEED SOME COMMON SENSE IN CANADA.

THE OPPOSITION WAS COMPLETELY OUT OF LINE... AND THE POLLING PROVES IT.

WAKE UP DION... BOB rAE... IGGY... YOU HAVE NO CLOTHES on!!!

Jack and Gills are busy going up the hill... I wouldn't expect anything better from either of them!!!

[silverback]

Stop with the coalition talking points already AS.

Parliment was recessed - For a Few Weeks - so that your little leaders couldn't overthrow the government.

Why is it that you are so impatient to have this coup in place so fast? Why the fear of waiting until January? Why the fear of going back to another election? (and don't insult us with the old line of "it costs $300m when your guys want to blow out $30B to the union leaders right now)

[TOM4CWB]

stormnorm;

I read the translated by Google version... (trans. a little to be desired)

He got this right.

Alberta's people in general love Canada... which includes the People of Quebec.

If the opps didn't have the coalition bomb to drop... which never had any legit points from square one... parliament would still be sitting.

This was a power pandering farce... Jack and Gills out to make political hay... and Dion was too foolish to see he was going to be the idiot standing out in the cold with no clothes on.

Too bad Bob and Iggy... no... if they are stupid enough to follow Dion... they deserve to stand outside looking in ...with no clothes on too!!!