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    #13
    To all;

    The definition of Insanity;

    Doing the same thing over and over... again... and expecting a different result... each time.

    Anyone can try to become a director... by now... it should be perfectly clear...

    The engineer of the CWB system... knew EXACTLY what he was doing... when it came to the 1998 CWB Act... and the CWB Director elections.

    Congratulations (Sarcasm) go to... once again: RALPH GOODALE.

    THE SKILL YOU USED (Ralph)... WAS BEYOND Human knowledge... Binding farmer's minds... in a trance that only you know how it is done!

    This CWB system...defies logic... common sense... and respectful Canadian principals.

    The same trance like objectives/methods... are being used in the present CDN parliamentary coalition... never kid yourself.

    THis very result... today... will drive/push the Liberals to crown Ralph as a stratification master. His warped view of Canada just gained life... as will his standing in the Liberal party as a KING maker.

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      #14
      gustgd;

      'You don't need my grain for an orderly marketing plan'

      Never truer words were spoken.

      And Canola marketing in the 2008 marketing year is proof.

      If the CWB were in charge of our Canola... that basis would be the same or higher than it is in milling wheat... (over $100/t) and the EPO would cost $100/t for a PRO of $400/t.

      So now you know my prediction on the bottom of the Canola market for the 08-09 marketing year! $300/t.

      The CD Howe study so well discribes the CWB... and the real problems it has. Too bad the CWB FARMER single desk Directors that were just appointed by Goodale (by default) will disregard the council (of the C D Howe Institute) like so many turds in a toilet bowl!

      Flush and pretend they are gone for ever.

      Just like ever other logical analysis done on CWB performance... including the Western Grain Marketing Panel.

      You are a master of confusion... Ralph... and today's result prove it once again!

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        #15
        Good luck to all the winning candidates. The war is not over, the minority government will still be pressured to dismantle the CWB. Tom it takes a big man to finally admit you are insane.

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          #16
          I'm in district 10. I just don't get it why peoples wants are great than my freedom. If farmers feel they should have the right to my grain, and have the law to smack me down, my only option is not to grow any, so be it. To the proboarders, I think you guys are in abit of a pickel, do you vote for the coalition to save the board and screw your country or do you vote for Harper, I believe most of you cwb lovers will vote for the coalition so you can have what you want and thats scary shit.

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            #17
            when the system is set up so that 36% of the production controls 87% of the vote. Why are we surprised at the outcome. Unless we get a voting system where the majority of the vote has to represent 50% of the production, we will just spin our wheels.

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              #18
              sTUBBLE,

              'This CWB system...defies logic... common sense... and respectful Canadian principals.'

              If this is insanity... by your definition,., I am guilty as charged.

              'Designated area' slaves... are trapped by a system of democracy... that says... 'If you have more than one ballot... be sure to send each one back in the provided envelope.

              'voted early and often: stubble..., chuck, agstar, burbert?

              What a joke we make of democracy... and for the whole world to see!

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                #19
                you got my vote gust, think rent might have to go up another 10 bucks to flush out another 4 or 5 pro board votes, will cost less then having a board.

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                  #20
                  I couldn't get on this site. I was really disappointed last night, but this morning I can put it in a little better perspective. Ten years ago, I did almost talk to myself, as there were few market supporters who openly worked towards choice.

                  The second thing is this. Marketing choice is buit upon a sound principle.

                  I recall that women were outvoted by men on whether or not women should get to vote in an election.

                  The results of that vote did not reflect what was right, nor should make men feel proud of thaeir position

                  It reflected the times, the fear, the same things as this vote does.

                  And maybe I do deserve a pie AS, in your eyes. But then you would have said the same thing, away back when...if you'd been one of the voters against women-voters. pars

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                    #21
                    At least I don't accuse people of voting more than once or that one producer should get more votes than another . Those are the same people who didn't want women to vote.

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                      #22
                      So what has changed from yesterday?

                      I need to see the numbers to make a proper assesment but I did hear Bill won in district 10 on the first ballot with approx 54%.

                      And this is new information how?

                      Pro board in MB 54% Pro choice 46%

                      We knew this three years ago.

                      But this is where all parties involved have made a mistake. We've allowed an election to a board of directors to be an ipso facto vote on the monopoly. Maybe this is what Ralph wanted but nobody wins in these elections, not even cwb supporters.

                      Why? because near as I could tell all candidates were polorizing hard core one way or the other types and the liklyhood of the cwb being in a good position to function into the future is getting nearly nil.


                      Just My 2cents

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                        #23
                        Agree Adam Smith

                        Risk management and how to operate in a new world where farmers want low cost risk management products will be first priority for the new board of directors.

                        Today's CWB producer payment options (I keep wanting to using pricing options but even Bill Gray recognizing they have nothing to with price) are expensive for farmers and high risk for the CWB pooling accounts (worst of all worlds). I note that producer payment options the last couple of years have made up about 1/4 of the overall pool size and are likely to grow in popularity.

                        I also note again the 2006/07 annual report where the CWB lost $48.7 mln in their risk management attempts to obtain an average price (page 43) and $40 mln on the producer pricing options (page 58). will be interesting to read the results in the 2007/08 annual report.

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