Agrium and the Others can kiss my ASS!

[parsley]

You simply don't get it hoppsing. You never will.

This is not about being LEGISLATED power to woen a plant.Get that? Not about snivelling employees demanding a right to a job with the people who pay having no say.

This is about co-operation. This is about putting farmers own money on the line. This is about taking chances, This is not about asking the taxpayer to bail out the farmer with a cotntingency fund gone bust.

You will never understnad the differece. So staff it. Pars

[agstar77]

Neither do you.

[parsley]

There is an Automobile Association. And a Millers' Association Abd a Barley Growers' Association.

None of them are governed by their own act of parliament! What can you not understand about this agstar?

If the miller exports his flour he doens't get put in jail. What don't u understand about the concept agstar? Pars

[dave4441]

Start running a multi million dollar business and over the long run you will quickly understand that you have to make hay when the sun shines. In other words, in times you can take profit you take profit becuase other times your margins are negative. Farming is the same. Who wants to have investment in a business that does not make money. I do not, even though 3 out of 10 years it makes sense to have that investment.

[cottonpicken]

"chart and collect bills"-cute,love to here that story.

[mbratrud]

If we got 56000 Farmers together (Talk to the CWB they know where there is 56000 Farmers...) and everyone put in $100000 we could just buy Agrium!

[bucket]

If the cwb got more innovative they would already be on top of this input thing.

Like I have said many times if farmers are forced to pool their income maybe its time they pool their expenses. hen I could maybe start to see the benefit.

[bucket]

Furthur since the last part of my 07 crop is just being sent out and the cwb has kept lets say 50000 from my operation with no interest or return on it - they might as well buy a fertilizer plant with it.

The only problem before I would allow them to do it - they would need a complete new management scheme. And since the cwb doesn't want to change it won't happen. Too bad, someone thought of an idea that might help farmers and we already know the result. Farmer controlled.

[mbratrud]

I agree bucket! Since it looks like we could be forced to operate under the socialist regime of the CWB for many years to come. We may as well go hog wild and let them do everything. We will just operate the equipment. Just think how stress free that would be, we wouldn't even have to pay to income tax. (interpret that how ever you like)

[SASKFARMER3]

Dave440 you just don't get it.
If farmers and I mean farmers take matters into their own hands we win.
Its simple these guys have always made money one way (no not extortion) keep us divided and they can charge what ever. Its worked since time began, that's why we can never ever get ahead. They want us in debt so we have to go hat in hand to them for our supplies, they really need us though.
If we form a cooperative, ( I hate that word but we will use it) CASH CASH CASH vs borrowed money deals with prov and fed govt etc. look at a new way of doing things. Ship fert back in from coast. We all have Semis, pick product up at central locations. If need blend do at smaller farmer run areas.
IF the system is broken find a way to change it that's what farmers do. and the Fert system is broken, They created this price increase for personal gain on a whim that prices would continue to go up. they Were the pigs at the trough now they made the huge dollars and sucked in all their dealer network to purchase the crap at over priced prices. Now when we aren't their to purchase their not their for their dealers either. Simply their cutting their own dealers throats and wont help them.
So lets go for the jugular on them. Where is the old rule the consumer is always right, not to these pigs.