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[SASKFARMER3]

NO jensend I am just getting to the boiling point that the BS has finally over flowed. They all deserve to have no sales plain and simple all the way up to the AGRIUMS.
We get bent over they make huge profits yet were needed to feed billions in the world their needed to steal billions. Great system isn't it.
But just once if we ever didn't grow a crop what would happen utter disaster.
Stronger than any group out their yet were conquered and divided so easily.
Baffle them with BS and win.

[dave4441]

I do not mean to gang up on your SF3, but I have a question. You seem very angry that the price of fertilizer was high. I do not deny that as we were unable to lock our wheat and durum into the open market, pricing fert at high prices was an unhedged risk. But do you not see the fertilizer market as a global market?? The whole world was pricing fertilizer at these levels. You make it sound like some back room deal to screw farmers in Saskatchewan. It was the market price. End of story. It still is the market price. How do you make rational grain marketing decisions with this as your back drop. I can not understand it.

[SASKFARMER3]

Well Dave the World Fert price is in a tail spin, and like grain I eat the loss but in the Fert industry the big guys screwed their dealers with the hopes these guys would screw you. But guess what its not happening like they planned oh my god did all the complaining help us out.
The world farmers are sick of the BS that these guys told us now as its imploding on WORLD WIDE SCENE we should be able to lock in a reasonable profit.
DO YOU NOT THINK SO?

Thats it in a nutshell they went out to lunch on prices with one thing in mind to screw farmers world wide and build on the hype that grain prices are going to the moon. Now their caught with their pants down.

Also with the Internet we can react to whats happening all over the world if it was 10 years ago you and me and all of world would just pay the going rate.

Like the CWB the hide behind a mask and baffle them with BS approach is not going to fly today.

[dave4441]

But it was the global market price??

Did you sell Canola at $14 or $16/bu?

Yes or no?

Do you think your customers believe you were just trying to screw them?? Does Cargill think you are the enemy after you sold them product at that price? Does their oil buyer's beleive you screwed them last winter? I bet they have better things to do with their time.

[SASKFARMER3]

Dave I got between your 16 and 14 on all canola in 08, It was good but now that prices are in the tank should inputs stay at historically high prices that is my question.
According to you they should stay their.
Aw isn't it nice to have no Idea whats going on out their.
Yes grain dropped but guess what fertilizer is tanking every day in every corner of the world yet you believe we should pay more.
HM Hm HM.
They baffle you with BS and like a sponge you absorb it.

[classicalliberal]

Urea is $475 where I am today and phos is $750. this is down from over $900 on urea and $1300 on phosphate. Seems to me that the fertilizer prices have come down about the same percentage as grain give or take a few percentage point.s

[classicalliberal]

If demand for fertilizer causes the prices to stay high, then that is the market. Obviously it is not because the market has come down a lot and the grain prices won't support high fertilizer prices. It all goes back to risk management. What is the riskiest?

1. Purchase crop inputs, wait to sell crop
2. Sell crop, wait to purchase inputs
3. Do nothing and wait.
4. Purchase inputs, sell the crop
5. Sell at a profit and watch prices go higher.

The first three are teh riskiest. The fourth doesn't necessarily mean you are making money. The last option is what most farmers have problems with. When you see profits for any delivery period, SELL THE CROP!!!!!!!! Then you will make money every single year.

[dave4441]

I agree with that I will educate myself to take advantage of any drop in price. What I am saying is that you are spending so much time based on being mad that prices where high. THat it was a criminal act. It was not, it was just based on high grain prices and high demand. It was not a conspiracy to gouge.

[cottonpicken]

Classic,some of us like to make as much profit as possible.

My feeling is crop prices are low and input prices are low.Both are bottoming.

So quess what option i'm doing?

These big companies are lining up to kick us in the balls.

They will manufacture a fertilizer shortage.

[dave4441]

I agree, they will be very hungry at any sign of firming of this market. All of a sudden there will be no offers.