Wheat Growers and weighted voting?

[Kodiak]

Chuckchuck,

Before I can comment on the CWB voting structure, I need to understand something. Is the CWB a governing and policy making organization, or is it a commercial entity?

[Fransisco]

Further to that could you please explain how the wheatgrowers are a comercial entity?

[furrowtickler]

jensend, the WCWGA, does not have any direct impact on the day to day finaces of the farm. And yes I beleive they should have weighted votes as well. BTW, it does not matter how many acres you have it is the production you get from those acres.

[Kodiak]

Jensen - I'm interested in your take on consistency. Does consistency of principles when it comes to running organziations cross all organizational models? For example, should a not-for-profit drama club have the same voting system for its member-owners as a professional theatre company has for its member-owners? Should the owners of a private golf club have the same voting structure as a public club?

[jensend]

i thought the principle was those who have more at stake get more say. cwb or producer org is to my mind irrelevant. go ahead and fire away but if size matters why doesn't it matter all the time?

[jensend]

furrowtickler: the WCWGA, does not have any direct impact on the day to day finaces of the farm.

then why belong? is it a social organization or service club or something?

[mcfarms]

This is the blurb on the western Producers news index on the Web in regards to said convention.


WCWGA disappointed with past year


Frustration, annoyance and anger simmered at the annual convention of the Western Canadian Wheat Growers Association.


I thought gee sounds like the last 20 WCWGA conventions

[Fransisco]

Why belong?

I don't see any other organization out there pushing policies that will allow you to make more money from the actual marketplace. Everybody else thinks all our problems can be solved by getting checks from Ottawa and putting farmers in jail for selling their own crops.

[agstar77]

Who were they angry at , the fertilizer producers , the railways? L.O.L.

[Kodiak]

Jensend,

I'm still trying to understand what principle underpins your reasoning. When the two of us vote in a general election we get one vote each. You're OK with that I presume. So am I. General elections are anchored by a tradition of democracy where the principle of one vote per citizen goes way back to the ancient Greeks. Democracy is about freedom, liberty and equality under the law. Look up just about any definition or history of democracy, and you’ll see there are principles that are inalienable.

Now let’s say there is a vote on a different matter. For example, it’s lets say it’s NOT about how we govern ourselves in a democracy. Let’s say you and I are both part owners of an apple orchard. There are 100 shares in this business. You own 70, you own 20 jointly with your brother-in law, and I own 10. When decisions are required (let's say one of us wants to cut down the apple trees and plant g****s) do we each get one vote? I want to know if you would consider that to be the correct voting structure - and is it fair to you?

[Kodiak]

chuckChuck, you started this thread. Weigh in on my questions. I think they're pertinent to your discussion.

[Fransisco]

They certainly couldn't be angry about...

final pool returns $30 a tonne below the average open market price,

outrageous basis levels in the PPO's,

only being able to use the fixed price contract until the end of October,

transportation costs for board grains being substantially higher than canola,

and the board not wanting to sell the entire crop.

These are all wondrous miricles to celebrate! Right agstar?