WGRF $$$: 1/Leave2/ Return 3/Build

[haveapulse]

Agstar77, to answer your question, the reason why I am so passionate about value add is from a simple idea in 1982 that was then a seed plant predominetly we have created value.

Western Grain Trade is doing quite fine, Thank you for asking, we are the first rung of the value add ladder, now it is time to build another step up.

You see AGSTAR the real value of Western Grain is that it has taught me the value of value added, the reality of how much of a challenge it is but that can be done (where there is a will there is a way). But for the industry the real value it the fact that processors across Sasaktchewan like me, have given producers a window on the world at a grassroots level that no other commodity was willing to do, we meet your buyers and your competition on a daily basis and we learn we need to do better.

And you just want to be rude.

[haveapulse]

A fertilizer plant indeed is a good place to start as we all use fertilizer. We all complain about gouging, so here is an opportunity to build our own plant.

I will type up this proposal for the trade groups consideration with a copy for the governments, and the media. If anyone wishes to help drop me an email and we can work on this together.

I will advise on the reception I get from the trade groups.

However I note, the critics tend to be more aggressove that the supporters!

[gregpet]

How about they just reduce the freight rate next crop year to reflect the 59 million and keep the money out of all the lawyers hands and any administration?

[haveapulse]

Certainly that has merit, and you are right it has less adminstration.

However I guess the broken record that we need to play over and over in our head is; if it goes out in a hopper car as a raw commodity we are only helping the railroard.

If it goes out in a tanker car as oil, and the meal in a pellet for feed, we have created jobs; helped ourselves with a value add market, created jobs for our community and yes, (we cannot avoid them in any scenario) helped the railroad, too.

[cottonpicken]

So say 100 million dollar fertilizer company and then potash of saskatchewan is only 270 times bigger than you.

Hopper and have apulse are going to make us all rich.

One knows about seed cleaning and one knows about coal.

Just give me my money einsteins,pars was right.

[cottonpicken]

I cant beleive nobody else is saying anything to these two.

Lets make our own shoes and socks while were at it.

What about strawberries!!!!

We all use that stuff.

We can have shares.

I hope siberia doesnt start growing wheat,i better rethink my cropping plans this year.

[agstar77]

You are the one who is rude when you deify The Just Us Farmers and their fairy tale. Everyone should be aware of the slant you come at things from. As long as we know where your bias lies all your suggestions are fair game. Value added is fine , the application is the problem. When farmers stick to a small scale operation things are usually fine. Problems usually occur when ideas of grandeur set in. There are exceptions but it is a venture capital world. 60 million wouldn't go very far. I like cotten's lobbyist idea.

[gregpet]

I agree with the value added concept, but as cp mentioned $60 million even used as a down payment for a $200 million will not get it done for everyone. No, you cannot please everyone but which industry or market do you choose? I don't/cannot grow pulses or any type of quality durum so putting my money into any of these industries will not benefit me as much as someone who grows pulses or durum. Don't let administration eat this money up, lower the freight rate.

[Hopperbin]

Agstar notice Western Grain Trade sells everything but Wheat and Barley?

[parsley]

1. "as we all use ferilizer"
Oh no we don't.

2. Value-Add
Return the farmers own money to him, and he in turn can appropriate the cash to the project he endorses. Simplest way to let him choose.

3. Nothing rude here. It's good business to question the motives of both proposee and proposal.

4. There's a good dab of cash here, and if farmers are not heads up and get it firmly tucked in their wallet, it will be kablunka-gone. Pars

[Fransisco]

Why don't we build a rubber boot factory?

Or better yet one for each province. And then we set up farmer committee's in each province to administer them with another board made up from representatives of the provincial committees to oversee the marketing of the boots.

The first order of business should be to lobby Ottawa for a 200% tariff on rubber boots coming from outside of Canada. The next should be a mandatory checkoff on all farm sales to fund R&D.

There may be some push-back from farmers who don't agree with us taking their money without asking so we'll also need a well funded in house PR department, do you think Deanna Allen is available?

[Fransisco]

And we need to be fair to the workers in these factories so we should bring in Buzz Hargrove to set up a GM style union agreement. You know one of those 4000 page ones.