The Conservative Corpse

[TOM4CWB]

pARSLEY,

I have learned over the past few days this fact....

The Government of Canada... is implementing this present budget... because this was/is the recommendation of the G20 and the IMF.

Canada led by the Conservatives... can participate in the leadership... and hopefully prevent global protectionist depression... or we could have watched the NDBloc plunge us into a much larger disintegration and economic black hole.

NO ONE in the Conservatives I have worked with likes what is going on... But we are all on this good ship earth together... and steering the Canadian ship at this point... is a much better alternative...

Than being hand cuffed and dumped into the brig... for breaking the rules that allow you to be captain of the Canadian boat!

This is the reality of 2009!!!

Stabbing the Captain in the back... is not particularily helpful... and you folks know it!

Be assured.. the Liberano NDBloc are counting on you using big knives!

[vagabonddreamer]

I suppose the thing I dont understand...is why PC's, a group of seemingly intelligent people...would get themselves trapped in the "never say never" vortex...why would they say NEVER to so many things...and then abandon those very principles they were elected to uphold...they should have NEVER run on the NEVER platform...lol...the first thing i learned at college level economics...is that there are few models left...history cant be the teacher in economics anymore...reaction is the teacher...

WHY... were the PC's so NAIVE (stupid??) as to trap themselves in this public backpedalling conundrum??

dont give me the "they are just human" argument...they are paid to think beyond "just human"...vs

[vagabonddreamer]

oh ya...i dont trust the IMF....vs

[Fransisco]

Tom, you just don't get it. We're not stabbing the Captain in the back, he just stabbed us in the back. He has turned us, our kids, and our grand kids all into serfs.

Deficit spending has never worked to turn an economy around. It didn't work for Japan in the 90's even when they took it up to 85% of GDP, it didn't work for France in the 80's, it didn't work for the Brits in the 70's and it certainly didn't work for Bob Rae in Ontario.

Stephen Harper is now using the Bob Rae economic playbook, he is going to do to Canada what Bob Rae did to Ontario.

When push came to shove in the economy I thought Stephen Harper and the Conservatives would have the courage do the right thing, the practical thing, not for range of the moment politics, but for the long term good of the economy.

I was wrong.

You asked before what other option do we have? The answer is 'none'. That's the problem. We have no other option. The Conservatives took the conservative option off the table. They took my choice of balanced budgets, smaller government, and lower tax's, and threw it in the garbage along with my money and the money I hope to make in the next 20 years.

And you know why they did it? It's not because they didn't know what the right thing to do was, they did, that's why we're hearing about how bad they supposedly all feel. It's because, just like on the wheat board file, they were too chicken to do the right thing.

If I'd wanted Bob Rae in charge of the economy I would have voted for him. Now thanks to the timid tories we have no choice, it's either the real Bob Rae or the faux Bob Rae. Well, I'm not interested in either of them thank-you very much. But I'll say this, at least the real Bob Rae sticks to his principles.

[parsley]

Profit is fine. There is nothing wrong with profit.

It is dishonesty, the criminal, which is not fine. Doing that which you are not allowed to do within your job description. Selling cadaver body parts was not allowable. Pars

[jensend]

profit is very good if it is distributed through the value chain. if it isn't the whole system breaks down.

[parsley]

What I'm saying cott, is that S&P should go down the tube, and every one of their execs fired and publically exposed...because they did NOT do due diligence.

None of them should be able to be registered as an exec on a public company ever again. It is a public trust issue.

Pars

[parsley]

jensend, you want equality.China had it. Russia did. You still have a chance to enjoy it in Cuba. Pars

[jensend]

i guess you just can't comprehend some of what you read. common malady.

[parsley]

I posted the glasses but I didn't know you were blind.

[jensend]

i'd rather be blind than stupid!

[parsley]

I guess you just can't comprehend some of what you read. common malady.

[jensend]

don't worry parsley, we'll get it explained to you if you try too. i didn't say anything about equality - you go back and check. i said profits have to exist and be distributed through the value chain otherwise the chain breaks down (weakest link, if you will). if you want to argue that go ahead. the nfu (an organization i thought was stupid for thirty years) explains very well what i have been thinking for the last fifteen years in some of their analysis papers. if you can't understand what i am giving you read their research and maybe the light will go on.

[Fransisco]

LOL- The born again marxist's at the NFU will save us all.

[jensend]

well fransisco, all i can say is read their papers. they're on the website i think. it surprised the heck out of me that they put numbers to what i thought the situation was in markets and value chains. kind of embarassing really but they documented what's been going on. a bunch of socialists stripping naked so-called free enterprise capitalism!