Haveapulse

[parsley]

You are either dead or alive.
You are either pregnant or you are not.
You are either blue eyed or you are not.

Some things are plain black and white.

No matter how many times and ways of tongue wrangling, of wanting to cloud the issue of force, what is, IS.

You either believe in using force on farmers to make themm go along with what you want, OR you believe in giving farmers a choice to participate.

Take a look at yourself.Or these:

* Sask Pulse Monopoly Directors.
* CWB Monopoly Directors.
* halfapulse, do I add you?
* Any single desk farm association like the NFU

You are who you are. You will be WHAT you want to be. WHO you want to be. You have chosen.

Live with your choice, but also feel free to brag about how you can force others to participate. Flex your emotional muscles; it derives it's satisfactions from forcing other farmers to fund your notions. Form a Gang One and extort more that the original intent. Have an additional Gang Two to silently and cleanly steal the UNEARNED for a rainy day project, yet unthought about. Be proud of your desire to use force, after all why would you not be, since you chose it?

Only force yeilds the unearned. So enjoy what you grasp, what you are.


Or change. Pars

[charliep]

This week's e-malt newsletter quote of the week.

"Achievement seems to be connected with action. Successful men and women keep moving. They make mistakes, but they don't quit"
Conrad Hilton

[Zaphod]

Get a grip folks. And maybe a little perspective too. Is everything a conspiracy?

And since when is SK Pulse a monopoly? You may not agree with all of the stuff they've done but they're still a pretty good example of a farmer led market promotion group.

[parsley]

Zaphod,
Sask Pulse:

Checkoffs are compulsory.

Period.

Either they are or they are not.

Pars

[parsley]

"They make mistakes, but they don't quit"

And the CWB would like you to believe they are moving on, right, charliep?

But it is more of the same, if you take a close look at it.

No conspiracy on my part, and just a few magic disguises and tricks on theirs to make it seem so. They are really quite open about the single desk. They justify it the best they know how. All regimes of force do just that.

But the bottome line, is there is no choice.

Some farmers will negotiate away a principle, right Zaph, because it looks like it's good at first glance.

Not soon long before it's gone awry. The CWB single desk was founded upon pooling, was it not? And how is that working, these days, do you find?

Call me ridiculous. Or paranoid. And you won't want to hear it. But it's my observation.

Every farm organization and body must provide choice. It is the only stick that disciplines. The ONLY STICK.


Pars

[Zaphod]

I realize the checkoff is mandatory. Farmers were the ones who decided to make the checkoff non-refundable.

I get your point about choice, but how does that make the Pulse Growers a monopoly? SPG doesn't control farmers' grain like the CWB does. They don't buy or sell anything so they aren't a monopoly in any way. And no, I don't work for them and I'm not a member. So there's no conspiracy here either.

[parsley]

"Farmers were the ones who decided to make the checkoff non-refundable. "


A little gang of fingers in some meeting room one afternoon just,.... ahy, let's put this so the concepualizers aren't uncomfortable with the thought of expropriating other folks' money, nasty little word, isn't it,......let me think,..... yes , ....I have it,.... DID it, right?


And you defend it?
Pars

[Zaphod]

It was based on a survey of pulse growers, not a board decision. But I'm sure that must have been fixed too.

I'm not prepared to get rid of something that's working for the sake of principle. There's an old expression about babies and bathwater.

Now the CWB, that's a different story. That's not just bathwater, there's a lot worse things than soap scum floating around in it.

[parsley]

Tell me the difference between #1 and #2 since they are both based upon compulsory funding:


1." a pretty good example of a farmer led market promotion group." Sask Pulse. Your words. Compulsory checkoff

and

2. A pretty good example of a farmer led marketing group. CWB

Either farmers build on solid principles or they have rot coming from the bottom up. Compulsory funded


Pars

[parsley]

"I'm not prepared to get rid of something that's working for the sake of principle."


yes, well they do get in the way, don't they?

Pars

[parsley]

Theres little Joey Doe, age 13, son of John Doe, who wants to be a farmer, who didn't get a vote in all of this.

His Great Grandmother was one of those bellyachers who bitched and mumbled about not getting to vote, because her neighbors kept saying, "I'm not prepared to get rid of something that's working for the sake of principle."

Yes, indeed.

But change came. From those who changed their minds because they finally understood that Great Grandma liked to get her pick, too. It is an underlying principle that every decision maker in the farm community must take into consideration when they make decisions.

Choice changes the world. For the good. And the way we view it.

Pars

[Zaphod]

It's something called practicality. It's called benefits outweighing the disadvantages. Have you ever found anything without a downside? I didn't think so. There are precious few (if any) benefits of the CWB and many costs so I would get rid of it.

BTW, a monopoly by definition involves being the only seller of a product. The CWB is wrongly called a monopoly buyer. There is no such thing. The CWB is a monopsony. The Pulse Growers don't buy or sell anything. Therefore, the word monopoly is just plain wrong.