Read this you Pro-socialist CWB commies

[chaffmeister]

Burbert:

I didn’t call anybody any names (well, ok – I asked dmlfarmer if he was the frikkin’ boogie man, but that really doesn’t count because I just asked him if he was the frikkin’ boogie man, I didn’t actually call him the frikkin’ boogie man. I admit it’s a nuance yet it’s an important distinction).

Even so (I'm sure you were referring to the "Pro-socialist CWB commies" label) - sorry for potentially hurting your feelings with particular names and/or labels that you may have found offensive. But if the shoe fits.....

Signed,
A redneck backwards lacky kissup hillwlly (whatever that is)

PS – how do you feel about the millions lost/taken from the pool accounts by the CWB?

[checking]

What makes you such an ardent CWB supporter Burbert? I think everyone on this site has a motive behind their views on the CWB that allows them to position themselves somewhere on the line between "let me to hell out of this system" to your "ardent supporter position". Would you explain your motive? My motive for wanting out is quite simple. The CWB will return to me only an average price. Average farms may survive on a CWB pay, but they will never have the opportunity to leap forward like they could have had in a 2007-2008 season.

[classicalliberal]

Fact of the matter is that if you like things like the CWB that takes your property away in a totalitarian and coercive fashion because you like the idea of equality of outcome rather than equality of opportunity, then you describe the label of Pro-socialist CWB collectivized communistic farmer. If I called you a stupid butt-face then I would be calling you names. If you try to take my property without asking and using an immoral law to back you up then you are a STUPID-BUTT FACE. The law should be on my side about the CWB confiscating my property.

[wilagro]

What does it say in the CWB act that defines "confiscating" property? That has to be one of the dumbest things that I have heard for some time.

1 : to seize as forfeited to the public treasury
2 : to seize by or as if by authority

Nobody is "seizing" your property that you sell willingly. Does the government or CWB come out to your farm and forcefully load it up and haul it away? They never "took" my grain.

Idiots, ALL.

[Fransisco]

No one sells "willingly" willy and you know it. You sell to anyone other than the board and you wind up in a 4x8 cell learning to play the harmonica.

Your oil just ain't reaching the dipstick like it used to anymore willagro.

[parsley]

The CWB has a stauatory responsibility for issuing national CWB export license.

If the CWB passed a Board motion tommorow, a policy motion/an inhouse motion, and that motion was passed:

"Moved from here on, that any farmer in the province of Ontario will NOT be issued a CWB export license."

Now, wilagro, what do you suppose the effect of that motion would be? It would mean that Ontario farmers' grain could only be sold inside Canada.Feedlots etc. Use your own questions when you mull it around in your head.

Pars.

[wedino]

Or how about this motion, Parsley.

"Moved from here on, that any one exporting wheat from Ontario or Quebec shall pay $5.00/ MT to the CWB before an export license is issued".

[jensend]

you'd have more chance of getting rid of the cwb if you cut wheat acres by 90% for a couple years. as long as you make this heroic stand that it's your right to grow wheat and your right to market it for yourself they've got you. if there's no wheat because the cwb makes growing wheat untenable then maybe you could make your point. you keep on making the same arguments that haven't worked in the past - what makes you think they'll work in the future?

[checking]

Burbert, is classicaliberal correct that your motive for supporting the CWB is that you like the equality of outcome rather than the equality of opportunity? Or do you use that argument when your real motives are like a couple of neighbours of mine who have the NFU membership card and, therefore, philosophy that the CWB has to be maintained. That I can accept because its everyone to their own poison. What I can't accept is that one of them is an organic producer who receives special priviledges from the Board to sell his grain across the border, and he is deathly afraid that if all farmers had his market access we'd somehow destroy his advantage. The other neighbour is a seed grower with even more special CWB priviledges who in 2007-2008 sold his entire surplus seed wheat crop that he normally would have hauled to a Canadian elevator for Board price, several semi-loads, to one American farmer. It was a variety that U.S. farmers do not grow, and it soon showed up at the local U.S. elevator. Both the seed grower and the U.S. farmer pocketed several additional dollars per bushel. So Burbert, what, if any, is your underlying motive for being a CWB supporter. I'd truly like to know to understand where you are coming from.

[parsley]

You ask why would I ..."keep on making the same arguments that haven't worked in the past - what makes you think they'll work in the future?"

The answer is this.

I believe most people,not your kind, but most, although inherently filled with self interest, inevitably make attempts at being fair.

Fairness is reflected in our society and measured in our society by ongoning stability, the ability of people to feed themselves, and how many knock at the door, trying to become a member of our society.

How many knock on Cuba's door? How well fed are North Koreans? How stable is Chile?

For the same reason as North American Indians wanted to be able to enter a beer parlour in the fifties, were rebuffed by your kind of reasoning, but continued pressing on, and finally were able to enter a public establishment ... well, jensend, that's a typical reason why I think a Designated Area farmer will some day be able to market the grain he grows.

Whatis happening is plain wrong. btw, I really don't expect you to understand.Yoiu've made it plain you don't want to. Because you think you'll get more money.

Self-interest.

Parsley