The CWB has to come clean to farmers

[Fransisco]

Not true stub, the bitching will stop as soon as we have an option other than just the wheat board or a 4x8 cell with a new spouse named 'Bubba'.

And I love the way you make a $316 million gift of your money to American futures traders sound like it's pocket change.

[Zaphod]

Chavez is simply trying to cling to power. The problem is that taking over the food industry will drive it into ruin. People will starve just so he can stay in power. Ownership by a corrupt government who rigs elections will destroy agriculture. Just wait, that country will explode.

[Zaphod]

You got me, SF. A good reminder to re-read stuff before I start typing. Chavez is still a nutbar though.

[classicalliberal]

Chavez is a socialist piece of S#$%. Saskfarmer, there was plenty of good prices available for more than six months to sell up to three years in things like corn, 2 years in canola, one year in oats and three years in soybeans at extremely profitable prices. For some reason, not many people that I know took advantage of it. By the way, those companies are controlling the prices when they can because they are greedy. It is something you would do if you could but it wouldn't be criminal if the farmer held its consumers randsome on the prices.

[classicalliberal]

I will continue to bitch until the CWB is dismantled even though we don't grow many CWB grains (maybe because the lack of choice and the hatred of dealing with socialists and socialism). Stubblejumper, if you are happy with a government run bureacracy, I suggest you switch farmland with those in Argentina which I'm sure they would jump at that chance. You can deal with the socialist Peronist government and their nationalization of the grain trade that is yet to happen.

[gregpet]

When you say profitable Classic, have you locked in your input costs for these 'sales prices.' That includes fertilizer, chemicals (herbicide, pesticide, etc...), seed, fuel, .....

How can you be certain you have locked in profitable returns unless all your input costs are covered?

[stubblejumper]

classic you just proved my point but you are a minority. When and if the majority of producers want and end of the CWB it will happen untill then there is still land for sale in the good old USA.

[Fransisco]

Wrong again, stubble. It's not up to farmers it's up to politicians. If Ignatieff snapped his fingers tomorrow,the monopoly would go poof. The farmer elections are a shame, plebiscites are a shame, surveys are a shame, it doesn't matter what farmers think or say. It's only the politicians who have the power to change things when it comes to the Board.

The majority of farmers voted to change barley two years ago. And nothing happened, the BOD said screw the majority, barley stays and the politicians agreed.

[chaffmeister]

stubble - to paraphrase you:

"It does not matter what the CWB does or does not do there are some who are so supportive of the CWB that they will support it regardless of the evidence against it."

And to correct you:

The "voluntary" side of this debate did not ask for the PPOs - they asked for freedom to choose whomever they wanted to deal with. The CWB decided to offer the PPOs in an attempt to appease them.

To paraphrase you once again:

Instead of kowtowing to the CWB some producers just REMAIN FOCUSED on what they need and will not be satisfied until the CWB is totally voluntary.

[TOM4CWB]

Stubblejumper,

Until you can shut down all our communication and Internet connections... news papers... and make us into drones... we will not submit to a lie that does exactly the opposite of the claims the CWB makes.

Lets face it Stub... IF the CWB did obtain premium prices... for western Canada... it would wreck the CDN domestic ag industry.

We MUST have individual grower decisions... cash prices every business day of the year... that are transparent through to the global grain markets.

Otherwise distortions will skew prices... and our assets will not be used in an efficient manner.

Economics 101.