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    #13
    If cheap screenings land in your lap, and if you bypass CWB pooling and marketing, and if farmer-feed grain is held captive in Canada, it's just as much fun as <strong>[URL="http://parsleysnotebook.blogspot.com/2008/12/mooney-lining-up-viterras-port-and.html"](shooting ducks in a barrel.)[/URL]</strong>

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      #14
      Sometimes, Bill, it seems people have to be hit with a two X four. Parents don't want to see or hear any of their children's shenanigans or faults.

      It seems Single-deskers like wilagro will give away the farm to protect the CWB. It doesn't matter what you prove, or what you reveal, the last of the stalwarts don't want the wall to come down.

      As farmers, be prepared to make some damn hard decisions, or you won't last. You can't last because you are caught in a $$squeeze and a fert/chem addiction. Your grain is captive in Canada. Ontario's is not.

      And for all your bravado, many Western farmers are one operating loan away from walking away.

      But the bottom line is this...there is one dispensible warble. Get rid of the bloody thing. It's eating you alive. Pars.

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        #15
        Wilagro and Wmoebis remember your farmer Joe story from thirty plus years ago, only then it was farmer Bob, and it had a grain inspector punch line. It was all about quality control to meet the specs on the amount of crap that could be added to wheat, so that buyers within countries would beat a path to our terminals instead of the U.S. terminals. The ship load, no matter where it was sampled, was uniform in dockage at unload to the multiple of buyers that might be splitting the cargo. All customers were happy as no one was cheated in their truck loads. The U.S. way, as told by our union inspectors, was for them to clean the wheat, put it in the ship's hold, and then look at the customer's specs. If it was short on dockage, then a compartment, or end of the hold was filled with screenings. At unload some poor smuck received the screening pill in their truck. Naturally, that purchaser went to the CWB the next time he wanted wheat, and didn't want a load of crap. (lol)

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          #16
          That makes absolutely no sense, there is nothing inherent about the CWB and it's socialistic social worker way of doing business, it's non-profit motivated grain sellers that would be any different than the free enterprise way they do it on the west coast of the US. By putting in screenings, they will make their customer angry and if their customer is angry, they will buy from many other places that grows grain: Canada, Russia, Ukraine, Black Sea terminals, Europe, Australia...etc. Since the west coast terminals are profit motivated, it would not be in their best interest to give their customers crap. They will blend it exactly to the buyer's specifications which is exactly what the Canadian west coast terminals do. The CWB and CGC have absolutely nothing to do with grain quality, it is the farmers and the grain companies who manage and to some degree control grain quality and it is in their best interests to ensure that quality is good within their means, not unionized, crown corporation socialists.

          I may as well come out with it and let you know that I merchandise grain for a company, not going to tell you who because my opinions (don't necessarily) reflect those of the company I work for, as well as do the marketing for our family farm. The local oats business for example, there is no official grading done on the oats, corn or soybeans, canola and barley we take in. They are graded according to the specs I put on the contract. If the grain meets the spec and I know that it will meet the end user's spec, then I don't worry about grade. I have end users that are less picky about grade and those that are very fussy. The ones who are the fussiest will end up paying the most in the long run ie. a premium and there is no centralized grain boards or government-controlled, unionized grain graders that get those premiums, I do.

          As a person who takes in grain and grades it from the farmer, I know that because of competition, if I am not fair in my grading, I will lose my customers to other companies. End users also know this as well and grade accordingly and it is not in their best interest to screw anyone on grade.

          No end user buys anything based on the CGC set standards and no end user buys based on the USDA standards, each buyer wants it's own specific grades and it is up to the elevator/terminal elevator/farmer (if he has blending capabilities) to ensure that their customer is getting what they bought. They use it as a guideline. We don't need government run, overpaid/underworked unionized employees grading for us. There should be third party graders, who have no other interest other than getting paid to grade grain in case there is a dispute but to some end users they don't even care what your moisture tester says or what your protein tester says, they go based on theirs. If they treat their customers poorly, then they will pay for it in the long-run unless you have one single buyer of grain without the ability to go anywhere else, or export or create your own usage for it(hmmm hmmm CWB, hmm hmmm, jk ;-D)

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