CWB; Our saviour

[may-be]

One week ago my sons teacher was telling the class how things will get worse for us poor farmers if we lost the cwb. He said he never told her what his dad thinks of them, because he found he cannot win a arguement with a teacher. Told him supporters are the same way.

[Fransisco]

Obviously, one of those teachers who can't do basic math and who doesn't want to teach our kids how to think for themselves.

Unfortunately, he also has power over your son's grades. Challenging him with facts and logic would not bode well for juniors final marks. This sounds like an egghead who wants and is training blind followers.

[Hopperbin]

Not sure how old your son is there, I would think if below grade 8 you should have a talk with your teacher. If older then your son should have a talk with your teacher and ask for a debate on the issue, and your teacher should be able to put aside his or her one sided point of view. The kids could all go home one night and ask their parents of the pros and cons of a monopoly.

[stubblejumper]

maybe this teacher believes in democracy and the fact that the majority of farmers support the CWB.

[Ron]

maybe the teacher should shut up unless he actively farms?
the majority of canadians dont give a rats ass about the wheat board.

[Fransisco]

There is no voting away other peoples rights or property in a democracy.

[furrowtickler]

stumple, the majority of acitive producers? Or people that get balots at old folks homes?

[classicalliberal]

Just because the supposed majority of farmers who bothered to vote want the CWB to market their wheat, why does that mean that the supposed minority has to sell too? Obviously we are mis-represented and I believe that democracy is misused and not appropriate in this circumstance. Democracy is not good in the sense that if anyone finds themselves in the minority group that they are out of luck and that democracy can't be used in the majority of situations. Here is an example, if democracy interpreted means the majority rule, what happens if 55% of the people think that the other 45% of people should be shot, or if 60% of people didn't want to drink water while 40% wanted to? Most people would think that the majority shouldn't be able to control the minority or do as they will with the minority as an extreme example and things like this shouldn't be subject to vote. Most things and decisions in this life shouldn't be subject to a majority vote because the rights of minorities will be taken away by the majority and coerced to the will of the majority. Most things should be decided by individual freedom and individuals cooperating with each other with the absence of coercion and violence, under the law rather than the majority making decisions for the minority. For very important things like the freedom to do as you will with the fruits of your labor, should not be subject to majority directive. Again I ask, why can't I do whatever I want with wheat and barley?



Regarding teachers, as much as we all need them, they are social servents working for their union who would naturally like things like the wheat board and other socialist things. I went through it in my schooling and I always challenged the teachers. Teachers like to be challenged by their students in a constructive way and that students who have a different perspective should voice that perspective. Maybe some of society's ill-informed things could be influenced by teachers like this who influence students to think in certain ways without knowing the facts. It is an outrageous, idealistic statement to make by a teacher that it would be the end of the farmer if the wheat board goes away because clearly that isn't the case. It isn't the case for Ontario farmers, Brazilian farmers and farmers who don't grow CWB grains. Your son should stand up for what he believes in whether that is in freedom or coercion to these teachers.

[wade]

With all the religous issues in the school systems nowadays, I think it is quite bold for a teacher to comment on the CWB religion. If enough parents complained to the proper authorities, maybe the teachers would have to be properly educated to comment on issues that they are uneducated on.
Students should ask for the proof!

[tipsy]

Iam rather surprised the cwb topic would be a subject of discussion in todays classroom.How many young people even know or care about farming let alone the compulsory expropriation marking practices and tactics of the cwb?
Iam not clear on how it's concluded that a majortity of farmers support the cwb?

[may-be]

A friend of mine told me his son a few years younger than mine was telling his friends about a hunting trip he and his dad went on. A teacher told him to never talk about it in scool again, olso explianed to him hunting was wrong. My avid hunting friend said he had a few words for that person. He told that avid golfer that he and a lot of other people thinks that golf courses are a waste of land because we can grow food on it. And if enough people thought so should we get rid of them?
Going to ask my son to ask the teacher for some proof of this.

[Hopperbin]

Wade the CWB issue is current events and should be talked about. Maybe I feel sad for the students at your son's school.
I have a 4 year old in pre K in China at the moment and will likely take K there also. Some people wonder how I can accept to have a child so far away from me. The answer is these Chinese schools make our schools look a bit pathetic. It is a special school by the way and not everyone can afford it. She lives with grandparents so still with family.

[wade]

Hopperbin- I also think it should be talked about and DEBATED, not taught that a specific idea (or religion) is right or wrong. The teacher should have to show the proof instead of teaching an opinion!

[classicalliberal]

They often do that. My teachers in history class taught me how Pierre Trudeau was the best prime minister in Canada and that Louis Riel is a hero. Maybe from an eastern point of view he was the best prime minister since he made the west sell energy to them at below market prices (let the bastards in the east freeze), told Canadian farmers to "F" themselves and told everyone he said fuddle duddle, forced non-french speaking parts of the country to speak french while Quebec has language police and rules, changed us to the metric system (which is a better system but creates complications when your biggest trading partner decides not to), engrained union rights (which is a monopoly on labour) into the charter of rights and freedoms, started us into a huge deficit, etc, etc....

Teachers will often present things from the populist idealistic point of view and students take that as a given without questioning the other side. I think it is hard for people to present things for all opinions and sides however.

As for the hunting and golf course thing, what a bunch of hypocrites.

[checking]

May-be, I'd suggest that your son provide his teacher with this site address to state what he really said. I'm up for a little education, but I'm not up for bashing a fellow taxpayer, unionized or not, over what you as a non party to the event gleaned from your son. Remember, we have all been educated by teachers, and their isn't one of us that would admit that we haven't turned out just fine with our opinions.