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    #25
    Cotton you said

    "Thats why there are fewer and fewer farmers every year.Becuase its so easy."
    How is this different than any other industry. Most industries are seeing fewer bigger companies. Especially more mature industries such as agriculture some of the green industries and tech are still seeing new companies but the nature of the beast in older industries is mirrored in what we see in Ag.

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      #26
      Mc,

      What you have yet to learn is that what you consider drivel IS the important thing in life.

      What gives a good getogether? Taking a moment to laugh or argue over a cup of coffee with a friend. Or a foreign delegation. Or a delegation of foreign buyers.

      Now, I realize you are big and important and maybe so so efficient you don't have time for anything but facts, decisions and action, but smart marketing is all about being interested in other people. About actually looking at them when they sign the cheque. Understanding their needs.You don't sell a 200K bull to someone if you keep looking at your watch. Or establish a five year lentil market into Turkey without finding out what they'll do with them in the kitchen.

      The topic IS commodity MARKETING, not simply commodities, isn't it? Most of the leaders from the state farms in China were here, but they were interested in the people as well as the commodity.

      People. What we eat. Education. Hobbies. Laughing and comparing. Taking time. You don't even realize what you've missed with your "I have exactly 71 seconds dear, ...."

      btw, I'm out of the closet with name open to all, you're not.

      And Mc, you have the choice to visit my site or not. Choice on both sites. That was my point, Mc.

      Think about what I've said. It really is some of the best advice I've stored in my experience bank, if you want to learn about MARKETING your commodity. Pars

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        #27
        Gee- Pars is it important
        thanks for sharing that.

        Have your customers come to your farm wow have a personal/ business relationship brilliant wish I'd thought about that oh wait .
        I'll have to share that with my Japanese malt customers or the Japanese national flour millers association or the president of the largest brewery in China the next time they stop by.

        Soooooo I'm thinkin you can in turn blow this one out your ear Pars... and I little word of advice yes it is sometimes good to know who's talking but what I've learned is if you don't know who is talking sometimes it's better to stay quiet.
        Something I've learned from all my years of marketing experience..enjoying this Pars.

        Had to stop by whilst hauling Canola just knowing you'd keep digging cause sometimes it's smarter to just quit while your behind ( not that you can/will) NUff said.

        PS Saskfarmer by the way you are right family time is more important than farm time as long as the balance can be found.( often difficult on a farm) I don't remember the days growing up that we worked but I do remember the special days we took off.... something I try to bring into the raising of my family now, do I think I marketing site is the best place to discuss our private lives? Well we may differ on that but to each their own.

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          #28
          I enjoyed reading your the visitors you have an association with. It revealed a lot about the business relationships you seek, and with whom you court favor.

          I will say, sometimes it's good not to stay silent, especially when someone rides into a website and tries to whip everyone into shape... their shape. I'm not one to accept necessarily accept Mc'rules, and

          No, I don't know exactly who you are, and I don't care to, but I have a pretty good idea of WHO you are.
          Have your customers come to your farm wow have a personal/ business relationship brilliant wish I'd thought about that oh wait .
          I'll have to share that with my Japanese malt customers or the Japanese national flour millers association or the president of the largest brewery in China the next time they stop by.

          Soooooo I'm thinkin you can in turn blow this one out your ear Pars... and I little word of advice yes it is sometimes good to know who's talking but what I've learned is if you don't know who is talking sometimes it's better to stay quiet.
          Something I've learned from all my years of marketing experience..enjoying this Pars.

          Had to stop by whilst hauling Canola just knowing you'd keep digging cause sometimes it's smarter to just quit while your behind ( not that you can/will) NUff said.

          PS Saskfarmer by the way you are right family time is more important than farm time as long as the balance can be found.( often difficult on a farm) I don't remember the days growing up that we worked but I do remember the special days we took off.... something I try to bring into the raising of my family now, do I think I marketing site is the best place to discuss our private lives? Well we may differ on that but to each their own.

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            #29
            I enjoyed reading your the visitors you have an association with. It revealed a lot about the business relationships you seek, and with whom you court favor.

            I will say, sometimes it's good not to stay silent, especially when someone rides into a website and tries to whip everyone into shape... their shape. I'm not one to accept necessarily accept Mc'rules, and

            No, I don't know exactly who you are, and I don't care to, but I have a pretty good idea of WHO you are.
            Have your customers come to your farm wow have a personal/ business relationship brilliant wish I'd thought about that oh wait .
            I'll have to share that with my Japanese malt customers or the Japanese national flour millers association or the president of the largest brewery in China the next time they stop by.

            Soooooo I'm thinkin you can in turn blow this one out your ear Pars... and I little word of advice yes it is sometimes good to know who's talking but what I've learned is if you don't know who is talking sometimes it's better to stay quiet.
            Something I've learned from all my years of marketing experience..enjoying this Pars.

            Had to stop by whilst hauling Canola just knowing you'd keep digging cause sometimes it's smarter to just quit while your behind ( not that you can/will) NUff said.

            PS Saskfarmer by the way you are right family time is more important than farm time as long as the balance can be found.( often difficult on a farm) I don't remember the days growing up that we worked but I do remember the special days we took off.... something I try to bring into the raising of my family now, do I think I marketing site is the best place to discuss our private lives? Well we may differ on that but to each their own.

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              #30
              Sorry for the premature post, Mc. My laptop was so humbled by the rebuttal you have practiced for such a long time, it balked.

              And thanks for listing your business guests. It's very very revealing.

              And I will say this, it is never wise to stay quiet if a practicing single desker starts perimetering online visiting rules; it won't be long before entries made 'about and by choice' will be regulated.

              I am pleased though, that as a farmer, you recognize that "marketing" goes hand in hand with commodity. There is hope.

              Since you seem to indicate you are such an astute marketer, then go back and read what you posted today, and ask yourself, "Is Mc the kind of farmer/farm I am just itching to buy from and do business with?"; after all, even exceptional marketing skills can be improve upon.

              (There is one farmer I know of who will think Mc is perfect).

              rsvp: Answer yourself.

              Pars

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                #31
                Oh, btw, Mc, you left your load of canola sitting so you could reply?

                Eager now aren't we. LOL

                That was the best part.

                Now, I'm going to ask you a trick question. LOL

                Let's see if we have any common ground when it comes to marketing:

                I'd enjoy if you'd read my blog.

                Would you enjoy it if I bought farm products from you?

                Note: I used the word enjoy.

                Parsley

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                  #32
                  Yes MC its nice to talk marketing on this site, but look at stats of use lately today as an example, US Dollar at par 0 replies, frost tonight in all west 3 replies, going to lake after long seeding process for one night 30 replies.
                  Seems to me once in a while letting off some steam or just silly nonsense helps one come back to earth and realize that life is to short to sweat the small stuff.
                  Yes funny always remember summer holiday to Clear Lake or BC, but never remember picking roots, stones, cleaning the barn hauling bales fixing fence, running the cat, scraping or going on a bender with friends and then having to go do smf at 7 instead of 6 on a sat morning, Dad was leaving us time to sleep.
                  And lots of us who are on here have met with lots of people who run huge companies, banks, oil companies etc.
                  So back to marketing but lets have fun also.

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                    #33
                    Never seen a computer get apoplectic before kinda funny.

                    Single desker hardly...some people who read that will get a good chuckle like I did.

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                      #34
                      Yes I used one for the first time this year. Have been using a conventional diamond and then foster buncher for many years. I have never bunched wheat straw or canola straw before, usually we have enough acres of barley to suit our needs. I went to the Jones unit because I wanted to be able to direct seed or at least have that option. The bonuses were that not only did we direct seed our bly stubble this year without any troubles but I gain HP on the combine by not needing the straw or chaff spreader any more. Straw is straw, cows like some varieties and not others. I calculate straw at 4% protein. You could test it and be exact but that is about what it usually comes out at. The chaff depends on the combine and it's operator. For the first several days of each field the cows will do well. I monitor their manure by watching the grain, length of fibers and consistency. When the fibers start to lengthen then they are short of protein. How much you save depends on the cost of protein. I have used pellets of all sorts, tubs, alfalfa and barley. Often the barley is the cheapest option and good alfalfa can be as well. Tubs are the least satisfactory especially when it is really cold. What you save is in the fiber, not hauling bulky feed out of a field and back to a field and not baling or manure spreading. Also it is the least dusty option at harvest time cutting the fire risk down as well as making a fire easy to fight because the straw is in manageable locations. Will it pay for itself in a year? Depends on how many acres you do, how many cows you feed, how tough the winter is, how long you use them, and the cost of the protein. I pencil all my options every year and it comes in at or near the bottom every year. They do require that you own a heavy harrow and make the cows use them up. We had a field near wintering calves that were swath grazing and the calves loved them and cleaned them up well. I'm hooked on bunching but you will have to do the math for your situation. Seems like a lot of $ for what you get but after the winter was over I never regretted it and AJ will recycle that money in Western Canada.

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                        #35
                        Oh and wasn't that eager just was going by the house, needed a drink and came into return an email to a landman and knowing that once the bait was set wouldn't take to long for the fishy to take it. lol ( see fishing analogy)

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                          #36
                          How often do you drink corn whiskey, per? Morethan 12 times a day? LOL Pars

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