The Value of 535 HP tractors.

[SASKFARMER3]

I am phoning all over haven't got ahold of Ben yet.

thanks

[rockpile]

Pars, are you suggesting a 'co-operative, socialist, working together approach'? Why I am shocked! The trouble is, group purchasing does work, it is used by municipalities all over. This is a widely used approach, especially successful in Europe. I don't care if it is initiated by the WBGA, the WCWGA, or the NDP as long as it brings value to farmers. Maybe Saskfarmer would be the first to sign up.
But expect extreme resistance at first from dealers and manufacturers as this approach will impact their profit margins bigtime. However, competition being what it is will eventually crack and someone will drop their prices dramatically just to get the action. You presented a really sound and logical idea. Now you need a buy in, which will be tough, but don't give up.
Rockpile

[ajl]

Brooks Farm Center has been advertising a Versy 535 for $260000 for quite a while. May be a standard. Lots of hailed down crop in this area.

[SASKFARMER3]

Its a standard the dam powershift is a cat and is huge option in the vers.

[Hopperbin]

Do you really want the power shift or electric hydraulics? Paid 265 for my versatile this spring loaded up with 3 rows of steal weights deluxe cab 900 rubber. Still need to get the credit for not taking row on the front. With an engine that develops peak torque at 1400 rpm why would you want a power shift?
I could be wrong but you should ask about the peak torque on the newer other models. I thought the peak torque was at a much higher rpm. May be the reason for having to have the power shift.

[parsley]

Why rockpile, you're reading
.....but not carefully enuff, as usual, and that's always been your problem.

The distinction:

I think co-operatives are great.

FORCED co-operatives or co-operation is not!

Get it this time?

That being said, nice to have you back on. Where have you been? I've been practicing my swearing, which will come in handy if we get at it again. LOL.

Pars

[SASKFARMER3]

hopper I have always had a power shift in our big tractor or power quad their just nicer to speed up in wet areas and then shift down as sinking.

[rockpile]

Pars, I didn't say anything about mandatory participation, just commended the idea of an association capable of a group purchasing initiative. As for the CWB, a no cost export licence (by-passing the buy back), I could live with that. As for swearing, I don't get angry at someone just because they have a vision or a point of view different from my own. Where have I been? I went for a ride.
Rockpile

P.S. Calgary Herald, Saturday - CEO of Agrium 7th highest paid in corporate Alberta.

[parsley]

Glad we have commonality. Better than Iraq where you'll get your house blown up if you try to vote.

Glad you're back. Pars

[rockpile]

Hi Pars, we are way off thread here, but YOU need to read more carefully - the election is in Afghanistan, not Iraq.Ready for some more disturbance in the universe? What if I said the CWB should get out of feed barley entirely (my pro-CWB barley growing friends would thrash me for that one). It's not worth the cost, the effort nor the bad feelings. Next, open malt barley as a dual market since most sales are generated by accredited exporters anyway. Some buyers will still prefer to deal only with the CWB, those needs could be met by contracting. Downside, spread between feed and malt would slip. This one will really pop your eyes out. Certified organic products develope their own marketing outside the CWB - it's a niche market and probably costs the Board more than it brings in. That leaves wheat and durum under a possibly more streamlined Board in a very tough global market, which I think still brings the best value to producers. On the flipside, if people really believe in a dual market, then why not open up non-board grains to potential bundled sales activity? Would it not add another marketing component to your tool box?
Rockpile