One field will make it!

[ado089]

Organic means you spray at night when no one is watching.

[fjlip]

Maybe it was white granular manure. This should be another topic. Any RM or MD pass bylaws to make weed seed spread a liability? I know some have tarp laws.

[boarderbloke]

I'm not saying he was putting down 150 or 200 lbs, but I'll bet he was putting down 40 or 50, just enough not to be noticed.

[Choice2U]

Yourlink can be rather frustrating....I couldn't get on Agri-ville for the past week. Anyone without scruples, either conventional or organic farmers, can push the limits eg. (pre-harvest intervals for conventional and fertilizer for organics). My beef is that organics get a free pass, "We say it is organic so it must be so", whilst many organic growers and "trusting" consumers slam conventional farmers as polluters of the environment. Personally, I hate salesmen (salespeople - sorry Pars) that talk down their competition. As I stated in an earlier thread, I have no problems with organic growers but please have the courtesy to respect my decision without throwing stones.

Pars, you're right in an earlier thread that we can feed our own people with no responsibility to feed the world but with 35 mln people and 72 mln acres of arable land, exporting our surplus in a competitive world requires us to continue to get our costs per unit lower (size matters). Even if we all went organic, lowered our production, raised our price, we would either have to convince our Canadian populace to buy local and pay more or put in import trade barriers or even better...move to supply management....just remember, there are only about 100 commercial dairy operations in this province....maybe just agri-villers would be allowed to grow grain for our country.

[parsley]

"we would either have to convince our Canadian populace to buy local and pay more "

What if the populace convinced us?

ie Supply managed dairy farmers are going organic!!!!!.....do you suppose it just could be, might be, consumer demand?

[Fransisco]

Oh yes supply management shall lead us all!LOL

[parsley]

What is funny about it is this fran...supply management sets their own price. Consumers have no choice.

So why in the world would supply management set up organic dairies?

They HAVE CAPTIVE BUYERS.(Not that I like that.)

Ahhh,it tells me that consumers are demanding the organic milk.

At least that's the way I view it.

[Fransisco]

"Some" consumers.

[Choice2U]

I'll let Parsley service the canadian organic market and I'll service other paying markets like US,Japan...we both have our niche....oh but wait, I can't do that without going through the CWB.

[parsley]

choic2u,

We're in the ame boat. Organic has to drop some cash at the door of the CWB's Marketing Department, too.

Years ago, the CWB wouldn't touch organic with a ten foot pole. But now that they see high value markets, consumer demand and growing supply, they want in on the cash cow, so they market organic. Opportunism at its' worst.

[darren442]

Can't understand this conventional vs organic farming at all. Most organic farmers were once conventional and they chooose another way. they have worked very hard using there mind to grow a crop. Now organic farmers do not take a back seat to conventional farming thats a fact.

Conventioanl farming uses chemicals and fertilizer to mass produce crops and get maximum yield at the end of the day.


I think that both ways have there place and if every conventional farmer had 80 acres organic the knowledge they could apply to the conventional ways would be a huge value. I don't knock either and there are is a place for both. And being pig headed about either way just hows how uninformed some of us are. As long as you are happy at the end of the day then leave it alone.

But here is a thought to think about. In the spring of this year when all the crops were barely out of the ground and thing s were looking very very bad. Who felt more stress the guy who had 20 bucks an acre for a bill or the guy who had 125 for a bill that still had to be paid.

My hats off to ALL farmers organic and conventional.

[checking]

Darren442, how far did the push go to get organic farmers to use organic seed as their growing stock? Did it get beyond the organic grower having to contact three of his organic buddies, who they knew didn't grow flax, to ask if they had some for sale at the mention $50.00 to $60.00/bushel level? Is it still going on that it is then okay to proceed down the road to the conventional flax grower to buy his (heaven forbid) sprayed on flax to sow on an organic field? If that isn't still happening, then how do you arrive at a bill of 20 bucks an acre for spring organic seeding? Better yet, how do you whitewash it over with your organic consumers who think they are buying the real deal from seed to plate?