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    #21
    One of our organic neighbors expected me to leave a buffer zone from his field while he wanted to plant right up to the fenceline. He's not the best to deal with but this did not go over so well with me. Another problem are the weed seeds that migrate to our field. If done properly organics can work but I prefer my current method of crop production.

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      #22
      All farmers have our preference, gregpet.

      But I maintain the most important preference to consider is the buyer's preference.

      And they ask: What do the actual eaters want, and buy and pay for?

      (The ones that pay, that is, not the ones getting food aid.)

      And btw, if I were to give you a choice of buying food from a sprayed crop or a non-sprayed crop, all considerational factors equal, what would most answers be? Pars

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        #23
        i agree organics should be responsible for what comes off their land but conventional farmers should be as well. we live in the middle of a section of pasture and have had lorsban drift through the house, too. application technology for these chems is actually pretty crude and the environment is paying the price.

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          #24
          My preference would be a Rolls Royce, but all I really require is an old egg beater to get from point A to point B. Not offering a free trip here, yet I wonder if I sent a group of picky eaters to an island that only served, and only had access to conventional food, how many days would it take before they thought about giving up their preference? On a side note, I'd like to congratulate Walk. Hell, I'd like to have Walk as a neighbour. I could learn from him. This person is a refreshing reminder that all is not doom and gloom in our countryside. How many automobile wrecks does anyone really need to read about, and what would you feel more for, the Rolls Royce or the egg beater?

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            #25
            I agree with you Pars, that's why I asked you to have a look at the CTV poll. Interesting.

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              #26
              checking, I said all factors being equal. Many wanna-be survivors would knaw on the neighbor's leg if desperate; wouldn't you?

              That wasn't the point though, and you know it, but a crafty way to pass batting.

              But, I agree with you that the farming valkster is a phenomena who's revealed much about himself, and farmers are usually receptive to 'save and file', I'm sure.

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                #27
                gregpet,

                As you know, I'm not one for polls.

                fyi, for AVers, CTV asked 8,689 people:
                "How often do you pick up organic food at the grocery store?"

                111 said they ate nothing but organic.

                906 said they often ate organic.

                3069 people said they occassionally ate organic.

                4603 said they never ate organic.


                What is unbelievable for me in this poll, gregpet, is that so many people have actually eaten organic. Either the rush is for upscale restaurants, or else the polls are whacky, because I can't imagine so many Canadians eating organic.

                Rather like the Wheat Board polls where a dozen years ago, dumping the monopoly was unheard of, but self-marketing is now is a thought courted by almost half the farmers, as is the consumer courting the idea of organic food.

                Glad you brought it to my attention, although I must say, I think the media would have a tendency to skew the numbers because most of them eat organic.

                And I'm okay with a lower number. After all, pure organic food is not affordable for the masses, is it.

                maybe it will be some Canadian politician gaining infamy some day, by stating, "Let them eat inserted-gene cake."

                Pars

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                  #28
                  If all other things are equal including the price. Then I don't care which one I eat, flip a coin it doesn't matter.

                  If one is less expensive than the other then that's the one I want.

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                    #29
                    Do you follow the same guideline with the suit you buy?

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                      #30
                      Well, rumplesuitskin, according to the poll gregpet recommended , 35% of the eaters occassionally eat organic, and so this considerable group willingly fork out more bucks for food.

                      Hmm. Lesson here somewhere.

                      Does a consumer paying more for food help set a trend for the overall willingness to pay morre for food?

                      And does that benefit farmers as a group, do you consider higher prices paid for for food a detriment to farmers?

                      And how about farmers as a consumer group, bragging they will pay only the cheapest price going?

                      How does that help edge up a farmers income?

                      Or do we blurt out of both corners of our windhole? Pars

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