One field will make it!

[sumdumguy]

Lentils are supposed to be healthy for us, but I don't eat the desiccated ones. Now that wheat is being desiccated, I guess I'll be wary of the bread I eat. Wonder if all this spray is necessary. I prefer the nice green lentils that are swathed and better still the organic ones not the pale, washed out ones- so the guy at the Milestone corner - get the combine out- bet they aren't any worse than the standing beans.

[Fransisco]

Penn and Teller take an interesting look at organics at the following link.

It's a half hour show. Mind the F bombs though they're everywhere. Once the page loads hit the play button in the center of the screen a couple of times.

http://www.bigvidpro.com/?v=W4tL3NHD1ZPra7AtnIJPwA

I think the banana taste test at the end says it all.

[Fransisco]

And oops, I forgot to mention the full frontal nudity at the end as well. You might not want to watch this with the kiddies around.

[parsley]

Can you imagine what the dozens of fransisco's were like twenty years ago, when organics was just beginning to make an entry into Superstore et al? LOL Lawsey, lawsey.

Now, fran, if you can just blacken teeth and paint a moustache on all pictures of organic farmers, organics will surely be enhanced futher. After all, when we can laugh at ourselves, we know we landed safe on third base.

And of course,sumdum, we all recall the farmers types who were 'meat and gravey men' and would eat absolutely no lentils, (lol, remember,) who, in fact, wouldn't roll a lentil around in his mouth if you placed it there with a french kiss.

But, the farm community has been refreshed more often these days, and most farmers have travelled more, and tried different foods, and are becoing more incontinental in their choices and in their outlooks. And becoming a pinch more accepting

The reason organics was able to make any kind of entry at all into mainstream agriculture was because consumers were the pillars of both agronomy and market development.

ie: Buyers would say they wanted Ireland Creek Annie beans in the store they shopped in and you could count on it, two days later the storekeeper would phone to buy stock.

We can all learn things from the people who buy the food we produce, if we first develop the mindset needed to listen to them, and then we need to take the time to listen.


Maybe then, farmers themselves,will actually begin to listen to and support each other as well, imho.

pars

[parsley]

Well, too many bad choices would make anyone pee themselves.

[Fransisco]

I have no problem being supportive of an organic farmers right to carry on their buisness and satisfy their customers needs.

To each his own, live and let live and all that Jazz.

However,IMHO it seems there are few organics who recipricate when it comes to conventional farming.

Pars, you of all people should realize, when you keep taking cheap shots at conventional farmers at some point you're going to start getting them back.

[parsley]

They were expensive shots, you wouldn't have called. LOL Pars

[parsley]

It should be:

OR you wouldn't have called.

[boarderbloke]

What does "organic" mean anyway??? Aren't there different interpretations for different organic groups???

I farm next to someone (only an old fence line separating us) who switched over to organic. I put up with thistles, dandelions, and foxtail barley flying over to my side while I don't dare let any chemical drift to his, even though it would help his situation. So now six years have past and he's fully organic! This year he was pre-working his field (with his airseeder) the day I moved onto mine. You could clearly see the urea all along the headland where he lifted out! I didn't think "Organic" growers could use Urea???

[ado089]

Organic means you spray at night when no one is watching.

[fjlip]

Maybe it was white granular manure. This should be another topic. Any RM or MD pass bylaws to make weed seed spread a liability? I know some have tarp laws.

[boarderbloke]

I'm not saying he was putting down 150 or 200 lbs, but I'll bet he was putting down 40 or 50, just enough not to be noticed.

[Choice2U]

Yourlink can be rather frustrating....I couldn't get on Agri-ville for the past week. Anyone without scruples, either conventional or organic farmers, can push the limits eg. (pre-harvest intervals for conventional and fertilizer for organics). My beef is that organics get a free pass, "We say it is organic so it must be so", whilst many organic growers and "trusting" consumers slam conventional farmers as polluters of the environment. Personally, I hate salesmen (salespeople - sorry Pars) that talk down their competition. As I stated in an earlier thread, I have no problems with organic growers but please have the courtesy to respect my decision without throwing stones.

Pars, you're right in an earlier thread that we can feed our own people with no responsibility to feed the world but with 35 mln people and 72 mln acres of arable land, exporting our surplus in a competitive world requires us to continue to get our costs per unit lower (size matters). Even if we all went organic, lowered our production, raised our price, we would either have to convince our Canadian populace to buy local and pay more or put in import trade barriers or even better...move to supply management....just remember, there are only about 100 commercial dairy operations in this province....maybe just agri-villers would be allowed to grow grain for our country.

[parsley]

"we would either have to convince our Canadian populace to buy local and pay more "

What if the populace convinced us?

ie Supply managed dairy farmers are going organic!!!!!.....do you suppose it just could be, might be, consumer demand?

[Fransisco]

Oh yes supply management shall lead us all!LOL