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    #51
    checking,

    Moose know the difference between GM grain and natural grain if you listened to the video. lol Pars

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      #52
      Was that a nimbus 2000 I saw in the sky today, or a newer model? (lol) I'd watch the video, but unless it has closed caption I'd likely not follow. Maybe even with the audio. Is it is true that a picture is worth a thousand words? If you'd send me just the moths from that cash pile you've harvested I'd be happy to replace this clunker. More (lol) Anyway, I do realize (in poor Burbert knees) that it was a moose steak to comment on the hidden dangers of eating wild game, your fish included.

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        #53
        Parsley,
        I apologize for the "paranoia" label and am not trying to hang it on you. In your case it would be a small "p" and not a capital "P". ;-) I certainly didn't mean to imply that you have some kind of mental disorder. I've come to appreciate your comments on Agriville over the years, and respect your opinions.

        In my opinion, there are those who try to capitalize on people's fears and use GMOs as some kind of bogey man. They make money traveling around trying to convince people to support them in what I consider to be an exaggerated threat at best, and a malicious exploitation of people's paranoia at worst. I’ve had people tell me absolutely ridiculous things about what harm is done to fields where GMOs are grown, that they’ve heard from some “guru” that they’ve heard .

        I've grown GMO canola for more than a decade now, and don't care to go back to spraying the harsher more poisonous pesticides that we formerly used before that technology was available. In combination with no-till technology our soil has become much healthier in that time as well. Organic matter and tilth have increased substantially, soil organisms are far more abundant due to not having the periodic cultivator devastation crashing through their home anymore. The crop we use in rotation (Non-GMO)are also healthier and more productive than ever before. I know that when I retire, the soil on this farm will be healthier, more productive, and generally in far better shape than when I started farming.

        I’m not saying that every technology that we could ever use in agriculture would be always be good and/or sustainable, but broad sweeping statements that all GMO technology is always bad is irresponsible at best.

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            #55
            I don't feel too easily frightened, farmranger. lol And I don't want to bury my head in the sand either. Do u? Humor me and watch a bit of the video.

            Good to eye market trends in other countries too. EU is going greener, whether or not Canada agrees. Obama election-pledged GM labelling. Germany is moving towards organic milk:"GM-free" claim boosts Campina's LANDLIEBE sales by 7.7 percent"


            "Since October 2008, the Ohne Gentechnik“ seal offers information to consumers on all fresh milk and UHT milk cartons on the GMO-free status of Landliebe products. This was made possible by a feeding initiative on Landliebe farms that is probably unprecedented: For instance, cows are given primarily feed that has always been cultivated in Germany and therefore can do quite well without genetic engineering, such as grass, ****seed or lupines. At the same time, the concepts does entirely without feed imports from overseas and therefore also without genetically modified soy."

            I was in Germany in July. (I loved it). We don't want to cut ourselves out of EU feed markets next, after flax, do we? Pars

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              #56
              What is your definition of genetically modified organism? As gene mapping unlocks the secrets
              of organisms and allows new technologies for plant breeding (perhaps animal as well), things
              are going to get very gray in determining rules. The closer the world can come to determining
              international standards that can verify a technology as safe the better so issues like triffid come
              up less often. Hopefully, this would remove some of the expense and risk associated with
              moving a new technology forward thereby allowing universities/smaller companies to
              participate. Today, it is only the big companies with lots of money and willingness to move
              through the regulatory systems.

              Here is a definition of GMO.
              A genetically modified organism (GMO) or genetically engineered organism (GEO) is an
              organism whose genetic material has been altered using genetic engineering techniques. These
              techniques, generally known as recombinant DNA technology, use DNA molecules from different
              sources, which are combined into one molecule to create a new set of genes. This DNA is then
              transferred into an organism, giving it modified or novel genes. Transgenic organisms, a subset
              of GMOs, are organisms which have inserted DNA that originated in a different species. Some
              GMOs contain no DNA from other species and are therefore not transgenic but cisgenic.

              [URL="http://www.answers.com/topic/genetically-modified-organism"]gmo definition[/URL]

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                #57
                Female. Friend. 36. Rare lesions continuously growing on her lungs. Reoccuring conjestion. Repeatedly hospitalized over past ten years ..released after a spell on oxygen. Good looking. Came yesterday for a visit.

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                  #58
                  Male. 47. Lontime acquaintance. Professional hockey player. MS. Came last week for organic flax.

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                    #59
                    As point of clarification, the EU doesn't buy feed grains except from perhaps eastern Europe. They are self sufficient and in fact a competitor in export markets. Exceptions are high quality CWRS and CWAD. Was surprised myself but Europe doesn't buy US corn (some south american and eastern European). Lots of soybeans and soymeal, however (mainly south america but significant amounts US). Only buys barley from eastern europe.

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                      #60
                      28. Male. Red Deer. Oil fields. Out of the blue....Severe Crones disease. Colostomy. Last week, endured the week from Hell.

                      A typical week..., four people I know very well, all under-fifty, exhibit health problems they should not have.

                      I could substiute different names every week. It's an epidemic.

                      I am not blaming food as the cause. Or environment. Or lifestyle. Or heredity.

                      But food is something I am interested in. And all of them have found specific food helps them.

                      And I want to try, as a farmer, to the best of my ability, which I agree is neither professional nor particularly informed, to learn more about the food we are eating.

                      And charliep, definitions are very very important. Could you start a new thread and post only one at a time? Pars

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